--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Coming from Quebec -- and being directly in the midst of at least 
> one battle for secession -- I can assure you that the differences 
> between blue and red states are miniscule compared to those between 
> the French of Quebec and the rest of Canada (including the English 
> and ethnics of Quebec who don't consider themselves as part of 
> Quebec).
> 
> The biggest impression that has ever been made upon me was in June 
> of 1990 when I attended the St-Jean-Baptiste parade on Quebec's 
> national holiday.  This was about a week after an important 
> constitutional amendment that was supposed to bring Quebec into 
> Canada's constitutional family had been rejected by several 
> provinces in Canada (it needed unanimous consent).  The parade 
> turned into both a protest against this as well as a show of 
> nationalism.
> 
> Well, talk about "cutting it with a knife".  The nationalism and 
> hatred against Canada was so palpable that it was something you 
> could actually feel.  Hundreds of thousands marched in 
> Montreal...and it was the first time in my life that I experienced 
> first-hand the power of that horrible thing called "nationalism" 
> or "jingoism" or whatever it is: collective consciousness for what, 
> to me, was an evil purpose.  And it just bowled me over.
> 
> I know it's not proper or acceptable to make the inevitable "Nazi" 
> comparison but I will anyway: I had an inkling of what Nuremberg was 
> like when all those Nazis marched (and we saw it in 
> Reifenshtall's "Triumph of the Will").

Interesting experience. Thanks for sharing it.

I cannot say that I have had similar moments
in France, but I have seen the Le Pen/Sarkozy
mentality that might bring it to the surface,
at least in some people. It's not secession 
they have in mind but the end of immigration. 
I guess that's a kind of secession, from the
world as a whole and the human race.

Fortunately, such people are in the minority
here, as they seem to be in the US. A country
closes its doors to new blood at its own peril.







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