--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Coming from Quebec, I am a somewhat "expert" on secession, 
having 
> > studied it from a constitutional as well as political viewpoint.
> > 
> > One of the first articles mentioned various states such as 
Oregon 
> > and Washington joining Canada.  Well, it has been suggested 
before 
> > that those two states join B.C. and Alberta (and possibly 
others) 
> > into a state called "Cascadia".
> > 
> > Curiously, there is a school of thought -- led by none other 
than 
> > Ben Stein of "Win Ben Stein's money" fame -- that the attempt at 
> > secession by the South in the 1860s was entirely legit.  I 
believe 
> > that the jist of it is that the residual power in the 
constitution --
> >  that's the power that says that anything not explicitly given 
to 
> > the federal government goes to the states -- would go to the 
states 
> > because there is no mention of who has power over secession in 
the 
> > constitution.  So...
> 
> I don't know the specifics of this, Shemp, but when
> I lived in Canada for three years, it was always
> explained to me there that the reason that the
> Quebecois' threat to secede was taken seriously
> was that the right to do so was actually guaranteed
> in the Canadian constitution, *as opposed to* the
> US constitution. I don't know that this is true,
> but it's how it was explained to me in Toronto,
> in a couple of cases by attorneys.
>

I'd love to know where in the Canadian Constitution that would be.

Canada -- created in 1867 -- came about in large part as a result of 
the U.S. Civil War where the question of secession was on everyone's 
mind.  No, there is no explicit mention of the "right" to secession 
in either the Canadian or U.S. constitutions but the mention of the 
residual power is clear.

Other nations DO mention secession, either explicitly or 
implicitly.  For example, I believe that France clearly states in 
its constitution that it is "indivisible".  The former Soviet Union, 
I believe, explicitly made provision for secession (of course, under 
its totalitarian watch, it was impossible until the Soviet Union 
itself dissolved).






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