--- In [email protected], "uns_tressor" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >It's also sad that some people are still "burning a candle" 
> > >for it all. There will always be enablers for the sociopaths 
> > >and always those who never see beyond the conditioning, the 
> > >marketing and the spin. And so they spin it again.
> > >
> > 
> > To be honest, Vaj, you come off as a bit sociopathic 
yourself......or 
> 
> ...or a double glazing salesman. TM is the best example of the 
> adage "Good marketing can sell a bad product but bad marketing
> will never sell a good product". The only people who condemn
> TM properly taught are either those with an axe to grind or
> prats who do not do as they are taught by their teacher. 

In Vaj's case, he believes through his Buddhist training that he is 
doing us a favor with his anti-TM stance. It is both a culmination 
of all of his spiritual study, and a delusion that he 
knows the truth, and is breaking boundaries for us by stating 
opposition to our thoughts and observations about TM and Maharishi, 
or Mahesh [Shiva] as Vaj calls him.

In fact it is a rigid egoic stance that Vaj has committed himself 
to, and cannot now see the falsity of.

Why do I say this? Simply because of his inability to respond when 
his postings are criticized. Instead he retreats into his silence. 

He uses this technique to recharge the egoic delusion in which he is 
trapped. After doing so, and dissolving the impressions of the 
conflict between the challenger and his ongoing delusion, he then re-
emerges, posting, but with no longer a link to any post that 
challenges him.

He is stuck in a trap. On the one hand his long time study of 
spiritual practices have provided him with some benefit. On the 
other hand he is trapped by this study, unwilling to do anything 
which truly dissolves the boundaries in which he is so rigidly held.

This is a dangerous place for a seeker to be in- Vaj denies to 
himself that he hungers for permanent Self-Realization (because his 
ego tells him he is there- a feeling which his heart does not 
support), while at the same time having achieved enough ability to 
transcend so that he has created more freedom for himself than the 
average person. 

This satisfies his ego to the point where he can justify his 
spiritual existence, yet deny himself the hunger that would take him 
further on his path, truly breaking his attachments.

Wake up Vaj! You are not the saviour of those who believe in Mahesh 
and TM! It is you who are doubting and dissatisfied. All of the 
doubt and scorn that you sow is truly within You, within the Point 
Of View that You hold. It is the disappointment of your heart, not 
the truth about Maharishi and TM. The answer is within You, not 
outside.  






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