--- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... and the stories have sounded no more clear as time has gone > on.
To me, and this is not universal, I knew or was on courses with most of the people in SS. To me, most were credible as people. Different than say, if SS were written by strangers, or worse, the top 10 posters on FFL. And SS collaborated explicit things I had heard 25 years earlier. Thus, SS files was perhaps more credible for me than for you. > Now to assume MMY's 'guilt' on the basis of third-hand material > is very faulty. Its odd, to me, how people wrap "extra stuff" around more simple events. "Guilt" ? I know you use the term loosely, but there is no i) legal, and most would argue no ii) moral crime here. It may be an iii) ethical abuse (younger women) but I don't buy that. Jennifer was, based on her attendance at my TTC the year before, and appearances, probably 23-24 at the time of her "reading mail" to MMY. (Though she was was probably not mistaken as 'the chosen one' as Tom apparently thought he was). And she, while graceful and refined, IMO, is not someone I would have termed as sheltered or naive. Demure perhaps. Adults do things, are responsible for their choices -- even if they regret them later, and are ill-effected by them. Perhaps it was iv) an abuse of power -- teacher / student -- I have argued that in the past -- but have recanted some. When pants are down, or dhotis and dresses on the floor, power dynamics may diminish -- or reverse, wobble, and occilate -- who has power over whom when nakedness befalls? So who (what crazy bastards :) ) is "assuming guilt" when, at least IMO, guilt is a non-issue? A more corect rendering of your sentence would be, IMO, " Now to assume the truth of the allegations on the basis of third-hand material is very faulty. " Well, even then, there is a case being made by SS, see my comments above on credible sources. But more importantly, even with credible sources, i don't have terribly strong opinions that the stories are true or not. I look at it, as many of the uncertainties in life, probabilistically. Much more importantly, i don't have strong reactions one way or another if SS is true or not. To me, the impact of the stories being true is not large for me. I figure a yogi knows something more than me about energy flows. And its his business. And even if not, i don't walk out on other teachers and mentors because they banged a 24-yr old attractive blonde. For some, I actually silently applaud. > So for me the problem I have with the 'Sexy Sadie' file is not about > whether it has been published, just that it does not 'scan' well. Thats not a universal problem, thats a problem you have with them. > In > fact many years ago I had the same feeling about Erik Von Daniken's > books, and then I watched a documentary which took his claims apart ... So you have a history of problems in this area. "very interesting..." :) > In the case of the allegations about MMYs sexuality it is not that I > disbelieve all the claims made, Ok, a shift in positions? > just that I doubt MMY ever had actual > sexual intercourse with a woman (however close he might have come). OK. So if he, naked, was about to have intercourse with a naked willing 24-yrold participant, but didn't -- is that a huge distinction for you compared to if he did? > Actually, for the record, I suspect "I suspect" are key words. Pure opinion, no fact. Much less persuasive than the SS files. > that most if not all the material > currently circulating about MMYs alleged sexuality has been put about > solely to discredit MMY, haha. i smell a conspiracy theory. And your suspicions have little basis in the actual history of the genesis of the files. > simple as that, a rather ramshackle attempt > at cocking a snoot at him, rather than an orchestrated attack, but > perhaps a mixture of both. Any other possblities? Perhaps to share information one found interesting? Perhaps to provide some material, which along wit h so much other material, experiences, knowledge, allows others to make up their minds on things? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
