--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], gullible fool <fflllll@> wrote:
> >
> >  
> > > Fred was very condescending and dismissive of an
> > > Awake friend of mine whose
> > > brain waves didn¹t happen to match Fred¹s
> > > expectations.
> > 
> > Fred is looking for cc-like experiences in the brain.
> > Quite a few seekers have reached the beginning stage
> > of awakening, meaning the experience of individual "I"
> > being gone, without an amazingly coherent and blissful
> > brain. It's just a beginning stage that they are at.
> > The amazingly coherent and blissful brain is probably
> > enjoyed by no more than a few in the US, but that's
> > just my opinion.  
> 
> 
> Fred says that he's seen enough physiological measures of people in
CC to have some 
> confidence about the general physiology of the state.

So it would appear that Ricks friend does not fit the profile -- with
physiological markers, of someone "in" TMO CC. Thus, it appears there
are people in FF, and elsewhere probably, who are proclaiming being
"awakened' -- which may very well be a substantial and wonderful
thing. But it  is different form the TMO's CC. Maybe better, maybe not. 

Hmm, per the above statement are some thinking new.moring is
"nervous"? Or trying to assert power over the myth of individuality? 

If so, what odd thoughts areise ins some peoples minds. Well,
thankfully, its just a thought.













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