--- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Exactly the map is different than the territory. The
> barest of
> information, enough to quide and inspire. How else
> can the non-dual
> descriptions be reconciled with what MMY says. He
> left much out by
> necessity, and for other reasons, and many still
> accept the map as the
> territory. Many don't anymore.

Another point to add is that the map was initially
comprehanded in waking state with all the implicit
waking state limitations that one is necessarily
oblivious to in waking state. Then there is a certain
experience of Realization (stable or not) and the
waking state map fits to a certain extent but not
perfectly. Other traditions/gurus can offer conceptual
tools that help make sense out of the experience.
Buddha's and Adi Shankara's enlightenment are the
same, but they articulate it in different ways. In my
own experience I have found Buddha, initially, and
later Ramana Maharishi (and Gangaji) extremely helpful
in understanding what's going on. SSRS is there to
carrot and stick me!




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