--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> Didn't say that. I said that I (and the others)
> were experiencing the kinds of things that had
> been described as CC experiences. Clear, 24/7
> experience of transcendence, during waking, dream-
> ing and sleeping. I have experienced this same 
> state (*whatever* it is or *whatever* you choose
> to call it) many times since; that was just the
> first time I experienced it. And yes, such states
> can come and go, no matter how much you have been
> told that once they come they are permanent, and
> no matter who told you that.

FWIW, I've never heard *anybody* say in the TM
context that once you start to experience clear,
24/7 experience of transcendence, it is
permanent.  To the contrary, it was always made
very clear that this experience can come and go
for years before it becomes permanent.

<snip>
> > From my experience, I did have clear transcendence 
> > in the presence of Maharishi;
> 
> Good for you. Did I suggest otherwise? Did I try
> to convince you of anything or try to get you to
> change your mind about anything? As I remember, I
> started my little rap by expressly telling you that
> I *wasn't* trying to convince you of anything, and
> that it *wasn't* going to change your mind about
> anything. Did you read that part?

Did Robert suggest otherwise?  Or did he explicitly
say he was describing *his* experience, just as Barry
described his?

What an exceedingly strange response!  Almost sounds
as though Barry feels *threatened* by Robert's
experience.  Almost sounds as though he feels
personally attacked because Robert described an
experience different from his.






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