How about the last paragraph of this from this? <paste> "If we are attempting to create order and harmony, in a world of disorder and disharmony; And the dome, is regarded by Maharishi, as being one of his most important projects, in the world; and the whole history of Fairfield, the long time of meditators there... Then the seed is the container of the whole tree... So, the seeds planted in the dome: 'ought to radiate the most intense harmony and beauty, peace and love. 'All we are saying, is give peace a chance'- type feeling... So, if we are creating these lower vibration disharmony's and chaos, in our feelings in and towards those in the dome, or running the dome... then we had better all take a pretty good look in the mirror, to find out who is behind this feeling, or creating this feeling of disharmony in the group, and purge it from the group, Omen. R.G." > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/111050
Doug in FF writing: Turq, i do not know what precedence there may be for this, but for public safety is it not coming time to have the un-registered non- dome attending meditators up in Maharishi Vedic City and on campus wearing armbands identifying themselves as "TM-ex", and a special catagory of "TM-Gov.-Ex" for those un-recertified TM-Govs.? Evidently this is a 'public safety' matter as we are being told. You know, the negative effect is felt in a way that anyone wearing an arm band identifying them as such probably ought to be picked up off the streets of Maharishi Vedic City or from the campus and bused away to that meditator ghetto south of the railroad tracks here. It would be a felt-effect certainly and make a final solution to the problem in the meditating community here. Pray will the Maharishi Vedic City Mayor up there and our Rajas act in our best interests and remove these ex-people? It evidently would be in everyone's interest, a grave matter of public safety. Yours in Best Faith, -Doug in FF > > That someone can sell a technique to help people relax > > does not automatically make them a saint. > > TurquoiseB writes: An excellent point. One of the *foundations* of > the True Believer mentality is "if this person > taught me or told me one thing that has proved > useful or true, then everything he says is useful > and true." Extrapolating from this assumption, > over time True Believers put the leader of their > mass movement up on a pedestal and tend to auto- > matically believe *everything* they say. They > start to assume that the leader has a special > "presence" that normal people don't have. The next, > and IMO most dangerous step, is when they start > to assume that anyone who doesn't feel and act the > same way, and who doesn't put the leader up on the > same pedestal that they do is "attacking" him, or > not giving him the "proper" respect that he is due. > > Read Bob's statement below with this in mind, and > I think you'll see True Believerism at its height. > Or depth, depending on your point of view. Bob's > last paragraph is True Believerism personified. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > > <premanandpaul@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Correction: for the record I dropped practice for a few > > > > weeks after seeing the look in MMYs eyes whilst standing > > > > near him in Royal Albert Hall London in the mid-1970's. > > > > > > ********************* > > > > > > It's not uncommon for highly-stressed individuals to react > > > badly to being in MMY's presence. Here's the account of > > > former MUM prof Kai Druhl: > > > > > > "In 1990, I first met Maharishi Mahesh Yogi personally. > > > Immediately after the meeting, I noticed signs of demonic > > > oppression. I was no longer able to control my facial > > > expressions during meditation, and my lips would suddenly > > > retreat to expose my clenched teeth. This loss > > > of control eventually even spread into quiet times, outside of > > > meditation. At the time, I attributed that to the impending > > > release of a "stress," that I thought had been in me all along." > > > > > > http://www.thetruelight.net/personalstories/kaidruhl.htm > > > > > > So you are claiming that although MMY left India and taught you > > > and millions of other Westerners TM, a practice which you say > > > "brings the light," and which practice you say you have > > > practiced for 30 years, you do not regard discomfort around > > > MMY -- the man responsible for teaching you this wonderful > > > technique that you have been practicing for 30 years (!) -- > > > as demonstrating a deficiency in you rather than MMY? > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <groups@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I¹ve heard that people tend to sit in affinity groups in > the > > > > > > domes: the Amma group, the Waking Down group, etc. > > > > > > > > > > How about the just plain old superior to everything else, > > > > > TM/TM-Sidhis group? > > > > > > > > That's called the True Believer group. :-) > > > > > > > > Thank you at least for being honest about your elitism; > > > > very few of the TBs are. > > > > > > ???? > > > > > > Er, um, yeah, right. > > > > > > Why would they be TBers if they didn't believe that TM was > > > the best thing since sliced bread? > > > > Well, that's sorta the point, dude. > > > > For people who are part of many other organizations > > that teach meditation, it would never occur to them > > to think that their particular brand of meditation > > was "the best" or "better" than all others. > > > > The *reason* this would not have occurred to them > > is that, unlike in the TMO, they were never *told* > > that their technique was "the best," over and over > > and over and over and over and over, for years and > > years and decades. The latter approach is called > > brainwashing, dude. That the people who have been > > subjected to it believe that their technique is > > "best" says nothing whatsoever about the technique, > > only about the effectiveness of the brainwashing. > > > > True Believers are *created*. They don't just > > happen. You believe that TM is "the best" because > > you've been TOLD that so often, for so many years. > > And sadly, you still don't realize this... > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
