--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/4/06 3:36 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> >> > In Seelisberg, Mahesh quipped *if your guru isn't giving you 
what you
> >> > want, get a different guru* -- I'm sure I've mentioned this 
before. I
> >> > hadn't seen Paul's massage, so I'm just responding here, to 
you Rick.
> > 
> I¹ve heard of instances of MMY condoning someone going off to 
another guru
> if they were having no experiences with TM. I believe he did that 
with Myron
> Feld.
>

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In the first place, people who learn TM have not established a guru-
disciple relationship with MMY, that's a completely different path, 
the one that MMY followed with Guru Dev. As far as MMY telling people 
if they were not satisfied with TM, that they should do something 
else, this was not in the nature of a reccommendation, but a brush-
off to fools: at my TM teacher training course at Humboldt Aug 1970, 
a guy got up and insisted that TM was no good compared to LSD, so MMY 
said, fine, if you like LSD, by all means do that. Guru Dev did not 
argue with fools, either, in fact, he simply would not talk to them 
at all: after he was told the name of somebody waiting to see him, he 
would either give an OK for the person to come in and talk, or tell 
him to go away. There are lots of people who are simply not ready for 
sticking with the path of enlightenment through TM, it's a waste of 
time and effort to chase after them -- when they get tired of 
suffering, then they'll pick up the practice again later, so one 
would never want to push reluctant TMers into sticking with TM when 
they want to go elsewhere. Nature's carrot and stick approach 
eventually brings everybody to their home place, bliss consciousness, 
after they get tired of playing in the mud.





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