--- In [email protected], bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > > In other words, as far as I can tell they're blasting
> > > > the Pope for knowing more about the history of their
> > > > religion than they do.
> > >  
> > > http://tinyurl.com/frea5
> > 
> > From the Times of London:
> > 
> > Times Online September 15, 2006 
> > How an emperor's words landed the Pope in trouble
> > By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent of The Times
> >  
> > Even his critics are agreed that the Pope did not intend to 
cause 
> > offence to the world's Muslims....The Pope's mistake was his 
> failure 
> > to distance himself from the Byzantine Emperor's comments.... 
> >  
> > And his address is undermined further by a serious error in 
regards 
> > to the Koran....[He said,] "The emperor must have known that 
surah 
> > 2,256 reads:`There is no compulsion in religion.' It is one of 
the 
> > suras of the early period, when Mohammed was still powerless and 
> > under threat."
> >  
> > In fact, this surah is held by Muslim scholars to be from the 
> middle 
> > period, around the 24th year of Mohammed's prophethood in 624 or 
> 625, 
> > when he was in Medina and in control of a state. Contrary to 
what 
> the 
> > Pope said, this was written when Mohammed was in a position of 
> > strength, not weakness.
> >  
> > ...Professor Hans Kung, a former colleague of his when at 
Tubingen 
> > university, agrees that the Pope did not intend to provoke 
Muslims.
> >  
> > "He is very interested in dialogue with all religions. But using 
> this 
> > quotation and his whole approach to Islam in the lecture was 
very 
> > unfortunate," he said....
> >  
> > "This just shows the limits of the theologian Joseph Ratzinger. 
He 
> > never studied the religions thoroughly and very obviously has a 
> > unilateral view of Islam and the other religions."
> >  
> > The Pope has a history of criticism of Islam. According to 
another 
> > leading Catholic...Benedict XVI believes that Islam cannot be 
> > reformed and is therefore incompatible with democracy....Father 
> > Joseph Fessio...said the Pope believes that reform of Islam is 
> > impossible "because it's against the very nature of the Koran, 
as 
> > it's understood by Muslims."...
> >  
> > Another senior Catholic source also described the Pope's use of 
the 
> > Byzantine emperor's comments as"extraordinary"...: "He is fully 
> > entitled to raise the issue of Islamist terror of course, but in 
> this 
> > address he is not really doing that....He should have said the 
> > emperor's comments were deplorable, and that he also recognised 
the 
> > reality of Christian violence, then there might not be such 
trouble 
> > now."
> >  
> 
> ********************
> 
> It's hard to imagine a more stupid and provocative statement on 
> Ratfinger's part -- if the Pope goes ahead with his visit to 
Turkey 
> (unlikely), he'd better slap on another layer of bulletproof glass 
> (wasn't the last guy to shoot a Pope a Turk?).
>


A Turk, a Pope, and a lesbian walk into a bar...





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