--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> > 
> > I honestly can't and have no clue what you're
> > talking about...and, 
> > hey, I've got ALOT of complaints about the TMO and
> > MMY but your 
> > litany is foreign to me.
> 
> If you worked on National or International staff this
> type of behavior was quite common. We posted alot
> about it several years ago. My little adventure was
> with National in DC when we were fixing-up the hotel
> on Purusha and I was in charge of housekeeping. I was
> in on the meeting when two people on national staff
> tricked a vaccum cleaner salesman into lending us
> about a dozen very high-end commercial vaccum cleaners
> ($1000.00 each) for the weekend. They essentially told
> him they were going to buy the vaccum cleaners but
> they had absolutely no intention of doing so. We used
> them for about 72 hours straight. They got very
> trashed and banged-up and then on Monday he came to
> collect his check and was told that we weren't
> interested in buying them. I was livid but the two
> National Staff guys told me to calm down. Real sleaze
> bag ethics. The TMO, behaind the scenes is replete
> with deception. And of course that grand daddy of them
> all: THE PUNDIT PROJECTS!!! Not one f*cking cent has
> gone towards bringing pundits to the US. Rationalize
> and double speak all you want, but it an outright con
> job orchestrated by MMY.


TMO sleazy, or in some cases simply hardball business methods (not a
crime, and done by many businesses -- MMY was a very hard and creative
negotiator -- a postive trait in many businesses) is quite a different
thing from what TM / SIMS teachers were taught to do when teaching. 

The latter is what I understand is the issue. Becasue MMY negotiated
hard for hotels and vegetables (some funny stories), and later some
real deceit  and scams occurred on the organizational / Int'l levels,
is not support for the assertion that SIMS teachers were
systematically taught how to lie in their teaching  intro courses.

  






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