--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> <snip>
> > We *insist* that it's effortless because it's our
> > experience that it only *works* if it's effortless.
> > It isn't a matter of "belief."
> 
> P.S.: Actually, Lawson maintains that effort is
> not needed, not that effortlessness is essential.
> I'm not sure I agree with him on this, but I
> think it may be a matter of semantics.
>

It's more a matter of introducing subtle effort worrying about effort. Knowing 
that it's not 
needed, you don't feel a need to introduce it, but at the same time, you dno't 
feel a need 
to obsess about whether or not your effortless enough--the natural tendency is 
for the 
mind to transcend anyway, so the person's experience with "how to" meditate 
will naturally 
become less and less over time, anyway--IF he/she doesn't worry about the 
degree of 
effort or effortlessness involved beyond simply "thinking the mantra like any 
other 
thought."







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