--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Averages are useful, but not refelctive of the core problem, IMO.
> 
> Tell someone on a jammed freeway at rush hour that "the roads have
> ample capacity to handle average traffic" you will probably be 
shot by
> a roadrager.
> 
> My premise is that when somone beyond the AMT-three, frankly I 
think
> you have cut down to reasonable levels (but I include you since you
> part of the original sample), sees pages and pages of
> Spraig/Judy/Shemp posts, they just slap their forehead and go away.
> Massive compulsive, drivel-prone, peak posters drive away 
thoughtful
> posters.
> 
> 60% of posts by 4 peaople. Or excluding you, 55% by three AMT 
people!
> Its quite sick, compulsive and abusive IMO. They are choking, with
> content and tone (Shemp and Judy (at times) per tone) what  was 
once a
> vibrant, friendly, supportive forum to a 60's encounter group with 
a
> couple of non-stop loud-mouths.





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> 
> I am not into enforcement -- far less than you on political and 
social
> issues than you -- I imagine. I would prefer to see those that are
> sick of 60% peak clogging of FFL to speak up. If 10 people do,
> Sparaig, Judy and Shemp may GET it. I have hope for Judy and 
Sparaig. 
> 
> If several cycles of that doesn't work, I suggest that anyone can 
pull
> the stats and if someone is above 10% for a one-day or greater 
period,
> they are given a "time-out" for two weeks. Time-outs work for kids,
> and are hardly abusive. They help inform and provide feedback to
> people to help them "get a grip". For compulsive, rude, or 
obnoxious
> for whom repeated group consensus to "cool it' don't have an 
effect,
> then "time-outs" may be worth a try.
> 
> I don't prefer the above time-outs. I prefer that 10 people stand 
up
> and say that they are sick of three people posting 50% or so of 
posts
> at peak times and ask them to please be become conscious of their
> effect of driving others away.
> 
> Or we just start a new group, and don't give them the address. :)
> 
> By the way, your stats are off.
> In Sept there have been 2841 posts. 130 by me.        4.5%.   6 a 
day. 
> 
> I like your idea of shooting for an average of 4. Some days, a bit
> more, some days a bit less.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey new.morning,
> > 
> > I actually agree with you. But let's get more
> > specific here. Since you're the one who wanted 
> > to set "guidelines" and "enforce" them, how 
> > many posts do YOU think I should limit myself 
> > to per day?
> > 
> > Should I hold myself to your standard? During 
> > the month of September (so far) you sent an 
> > average of 6.14 posts per day, whereas I rudely 
> > sent an average of 8.7 posts per day. 
> > 
> > I will try my best in the future not only to
> > not exceed your average, but to limit myself
> > to less than half that amount, an average of 
> > no more than four posts per day. That is well
> > below the median posting level for the group 
> > as a whole. Would that be satisfactory?
> > 
> > If so, now see whether you can get the other 
> > three to do this. During September, their 
> > daily averages were as follows:
> > 
> > authfriend -- 17.81 posts per day
> > sparaig -- 18.05 posts per day
> > shempmcgurk -- 12.19 posts per day
> > 
> > Good luck.  :-)
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > for sept 20-21 Approx 30 hours
> > > 
> > >   posts   total   %       Cum %
> > > sparaig   56      213     26%     26%
> > > Judy      33      213     15%     42%
> > > Shemp     24      213     11%     53%
> > > Turq      12      213     6%      59%
> > > 
> > > Several weeks ago when I did this spot 24 hour (or 100 post) 
check,
> > > These four posters were a mere, but still intrusive and 
approching
> > > abnoxious, 40% of total FFL posts. Now they  are almost 60%. 
As they
> > > say in the music biz, "Rising with a bullet".
> > > 
> > > To other posters beyond these four: Do you really want to see 
FFL
> > > taken over by this virus? I see full pages of 20-30 posts and 
they 
> > > are nearlly all Sparaig. Its difficult to even find posts not 
from 
> > > this clan of obsessives. 
> > > 
> > > Anyone else sick of thus choking of FFL? If so, open your 
window and
> > > shout "I'm not going to take in any longer". Or simple post it.
> >
>







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