--- In [email protected], "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > 
> > > > If people don't want me here, just post that comment here on this 
> > > > thread and if enough people do so, I'll be happy to leave.
> > > 
> > > Thats your perogative to take an all or nothing approach.  But, of
> > > course, my suggestion was that posters try to keep within 10% of total
> > > posts. Otherwise to take a voluntary "time out" -- to regroup and
> > > reduce the urge for their compulsive jag -- and to form new habits, or
> > > if they are too compulsive to do so, an auto-trigger to give them such
> > > a rest.
> > > 
> > > My premise is that when thoughtful posters sees pages and pages of
> > > Spraig/Judy/Shemp posts, they just slap their forehead and go away.
> > > Massive compulsive, drivel-prone, anger-spewing, peak posters drive
> > > away thoughtful posters.
> > > 
> > > I susggest the following: 
> > > 
> > > * If over the next week, 10 people stand up and say they don't like
> > > this majority of (peak) posts by three posters, and ask to you to
> > > attempt to limit it to 10% each (aka "the kindely request"), then will
> > > you earnestly try to do so?  
> 
> I am going on record as making the "kindly request" to people who post more 
> than 10%.  
> This same idea has been presented before here on FFL.  I guess these internet 
> forums 
are 
> vulnerable to this kind of behavior.  I no longer ever read any of these 
> posters who 
> overpost, but it does somehow bring down the atmosphere just seeing the same 
> few 
> names over and over and over and over again......
> > > 
> > > * Same for Judy and Sparaig -- and others as they may arise over time.
> > > 
> > > * If you are unable to control your urges to 10% of posts, will you
> > > agree to "time-outs" aka temporary suspensions to allow you time to
> > > regroup?. Lets say one week for the first time, two weeks for the
> > > second and subsequent times.
> > > 
> > > If you (Shemp), Judy and Sparaig agree to this (in the next day or
> > > so), I will agree to the following:
> > > 
> > > If 10 people don't stand up a make "the kindly request", I will leave
> > > FFL. Thus illustrating that posters are driven away by a majority of
> > > posts by three people --  often drivel, anal-detailedness going
> > > nowhere, and ager vents, etc  IMO.
> > > 
> > > I have participated regularly on FFL for four years. I no longer care
> > > to if I have to wade through such majority sludge as cited above. If
> > > nine others stand up make the "kindly request", then I think FFL can
> > > regain its health, vibrancy and friendly supportive environment of the
> > > past. 
> > > 
> > > If not, i think the trend, 40% ===> 60% ====> ?, of posts by a few
> > > posters will continue as thoughtful posters drop out of the sludge,
> > > and the compulsive sludgers contine to jag on. 
> > > 
> > > Thus: 
> > > 
> > > I invite all posters to make the "the kindely request": 
> > > "I don't like the majority of FFL (peak) posts being made by only
> > > three posters, and kindly ask to them to attempt to limit it to 10% each.
> > > 
> > > Separate from the above, I invite all posters to consider taking a
> > > "greener-pastures" pledge":
> > > 
> > > If 
> > > 
> > > i) Judy, Sparaig and Shemp agree to the earnestly try to each limit
> > > posts to 10% of total, if 10 people take make the "kindly request.  
> > > 
> > > And if they are unable to do so , they agree to "time-outs" -- one
> > > week for the first time, two weeks for the second and subsequent
> > > times, and 
> > > 
> > > ii) 10 FFL memebers as a whole don't support this initiative, that is,
> > > less than 10 make the "kindly request" within a week of i) occurring,
> > > 
> > > then the member state their intention to move on to forums that are
> > > less clogged with posts by a small minority --- posts which often have
> > > a drivel, venting, or nonrespective content. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If several cycles of that doesn't work, I suggest that anyone can pull
> > > the stats and if someone is above 10% for a one-day or greater period,
> > > they are given a "time-out" for two weeks. Time-outs work for kids,
> > > and are hardly abusive. They help inform and provide feedback to
> > > people to help them "get a grip". For compulsive, rude, or obnoxious
> > > for whom repeated group consensus to "cool it' don't have an effect,
> > > then "time-outs" may be worth a try.
> > > 
> > > I don't prefer the above time-outs. I prefer that 10 people stand up
> > > and say that they are sick of three people posting 50% or so of posts
> > > at peak times and ask them to please be become conscious of their
> > > effect of driving others away.
> > > 
> > > Or we just start a new group, and don't give them the address. :)
> > > 
> > > By the way, your stats are off.
> > > In Sept there have been 2841 posts. 130 by me. 4.5%. 6 a day.
> > > 
> > > I like your idea of shooting for an average of 4. Some days, a bit
> > > more, some days a bit less.
> > >
> >
>
It appears that the people who overpost are not stepping up and saying that 
they are 
going to change or that they care about or understand what the FFL community 
has said to 
them, in fairly gentle and kind terms.  I don't know if this is possible, but 
if there is an 
automatic feature on chat rooms that just witholds posts from any person who 
has been 
overposting (more than 10% of the previous 30 posts, for example) until their 
percentage 
is acceptable, then I vote for that system to be implemented on FFL. At the 
least, this 
would force people to cram more into a single post. That is fine with me, since 
I won't be 
reading them anyway, but it would reduce the clog factor and relieve so many 
here just in 
that alone.  Is there an auto-filter program for chat rooms?





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