Reposting the "after coffee math" version of this
post, having deleted the "pre coffee math" version  :-)

> --- In [email protected], "wayback71" <wayback71@> wrote:
>
> It appears that the people who overpost are not stepping up and
> saying that they are going to change or that they care about or
> understand what the FFL community has said to them, in fairly
> gentle and kind terms.

In fact, Sparaig has treated the whole subject
as if it were a joke, and Judy has never even
ONCE acknowledged that her level of posting is
excessive.

I think we have to assume that neither of them
thinks that their level of posting IS excessive.

Therefore they're not going to change.

Shemp and I have acknowledged our willingness
to either cut back or leave the forum entirely.
But Sparaig and Judy are trying to bluff their
way through this and continue doing what they
have always done. They are assuming that no
one has the balls to actually impose some sane
controls on them, since they seem incapable of
self-control.

The two of them have SUCCESSFULLY taken over
Fairfield Life, such that any new person showing
up on the scene would have to believe that they
*represent* Fairfield Life. That is, after all,
all they see when they go to a FFL Messages page:
endless numbers of posts by sparaig and authfriend.

And now these two are betting that you guys are
going to wuss out and allow them to KEEP doing this.

I think that in a recent post new.morning made an
astute observation, and used the appropriate word
for this type of behavior:

"It just seems a shame to give in and let the
terrorists shape our lives. Then they win."

Reluctantly, I finally agree with new.morning.
The only thing these cyberterrorists will under-
stand is "cutting them off at the pump." They
have DEMONSTRATED that they won't listen to
reason and they have failed even to *acknowledge*
that their behavior is offensive.

So I'd vote for a solution similar to what he
proposed:

-- Given an appropriate "start date" (say the
beginning of a calendar month) monitor the
posting activity of the biggest offenders.

-- A normal month on FFL consists of 3000 to
4000 posts total. 10% of that would be 300 to
400 posts per month.

-- When these posters reach a total of 300 posts
for the month, send out a warning that they only
have 100 left for the month. At that point they
know that they have to "cut down," or else.

-- When they reach 400, cut them off for the rest
of the month.

-- If they get "cut off" three months in a row,
suspend their posting privileges permanently.

-- START by cutting off all four offenders for
the period before the new policy goes into effect.
If you don't, you *know* what will happen -- two
of them will flood the group with hundreds of angry 
rants just to "get them in under the wire."

Simple, effective, and fair.

Speaking as someone who has posted WAY too much
in the past, I would have NO PROBLEM abiding by
such a policy.

I would have no problem with it if we cut the 
percentage down to 5% of the total and set the
monthly "warning" limit to 150 posts and the
"cutoff" limit to 200. Actually, I think that's
a much more sane basis for such a policy. I only 
used 10% above because that's what new.morning 
originally proposed.

Personally, I think that anyone who can't express
what they want to say in 150 to 200 posts is not
just socially unacceptable, but approaching sociopath
status.

Unc/Barry/TurquoiseB







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