Re: Lords of Light

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I guess its that stupid consistency thing -- where "A View" is
> > "Any thought is good 'in the moment' but damn that thought if
> > a day or two later 'I' get a different one that totally
> > contracticts the 'great thoughts' of the prior day."
> >
> > Some people claim that is (towards) enlightenment. Some people
> > say its signs of a petty, frivilous or unstable mind.


>As someone wisely said, "Consistency
> is the hobgoblin of small minds." I wish you lots
> of fun with your favorite goblins this Halloween. :-)

Actually, what Emerson actually said in Sef-Reliance, one of my
favorite essays, is "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little
minds." You may think that i)making an emphatic appeal one day that
posts should be dignified, graceful, and aim to uplift the poster, and
then ii) shyte all over a poster the next day -- has no relationship
and its only a "Foolish consistentcy" -- then more power to you in
your glorious POV and philosophy. I hope it serves you well. I don't
find such a foolish consistency but an major inconsistency of an
intellect taking a vaction. See below post.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/118575


> BUT, to home in on your first paragraph, yes, some-
> times

But a minority of times it appears. Mostly it appears to be mere
spite and malice. Surely you can do better Turq.

> my jibes *are* intended to present to Judy a
> different way of seeing her self, in the hope that
> someday she might be actually able to *see* her
> self in a different way than the way she clings to.
> It hasn't worked so far, but that's no excuse for
> not trying. :-)
>
> ("Disturbing the peace" and bothering the other folks
> here, on the other hand, *IS* a good excuse for not
> trying, so I'll try not to do so as much in the future.)

There we go!

> The thing is, people just don't *respond* to posts
> that cause them to see things a different way than
> they're used to seeing them, *until they are ready
> to do so*.

So why be such a head to wall-banger?

> IMO, it's the reason Rory stopped banging
> his head against the wall here. He'd try to offer a
> different way of seeing things to people, and they
> would respond either by 1) using it as an opportunity
> to slam him, or 2) by ignoring the new point of view
> that he introduces and using it as a jumping-off point
> for arguing incessantly about their old, tired point
> of view.

Its quite a huge leap between pointing out another point of view, and
trying ot force poeple to adopt that view -- and being highly
disappointed, even angry and spiteful, when they don't. That appears
to be your MO. Not very productive for you or the "one needing
mind-alteration".

>You vascillate between 1 and 2 IMO.

Thank you for your opinons of what you think I am doing. Actually, my
interactions with Rory go way back before you joined the list. You
caught the tail end when my approach to continued obfuscation and
diversion became more "creative". A main aim in my posts is to point
out logical, cognitive and/or factual errors as a means to share a
differnt POV for them to consider. While its not solely charitable, I
do it as an exercise for myself. I find it brings greater clarity as
to the subtle nature of many such errors, and makes me more aware and
able to avoid them in my own life and thinking.


> I understand his decision to lay low until people are
> a little more ready and willing to consider different
> concepts and points of view other than the ones they
> have clung to for decades. ...

Many of use are using models quite different from the ones we had 30
years ago. The difference between us and you perhaps is most of us
don't try to jam such views down others throats, nor to we pout and
carry on wehn our POVs are not immediately embraced by others -- and
others don't proclaim how wise and clever we are. ButI wish you well
on your chosen path.


> I do one of these "serious" posts every so often, just
> to see whether anyone *will* reply, and we can have
> some fun discussing something new.

And maybe your "deep thoughts" are not very intersting or profound as
you think. Have you ever considered that other POV? And why are yous o
disappointed at such. Or the response? Are you seeking and missing the
"applause"? If so, yuo might want to consider such as a value, goal
and sourse of motivation.

And many posts go unresponded to. Many people read, I presume, and may
go "hmmm", but don't have time or don't have anything compelling to
add, so they don't. Far better than thsoe who feel the need to comment
on every post regardless of how compelling thier points may be.

Its utterly fascinating that one one hand you are moaning that no one
reponds to your posts, and then when I finally reposnd to one of your
posts, a rarity, you moan that I had the audacity to respond to your
posts. GO F*cking Figure!



> ... but
> it's nice every so often to see that someone *notices*
> that a slightly different paradigm has been introduced.

Yes, it can be. Maybe try another list with people who think like you
so you can self-reflect against each other.

> The reason I'm mentioning this is that you seem to
> have this goal of getting me into a head-to-head with
> you,

No interst in that. Just my habit to point out the logical, cognitive
na factual errors. For my on edification. And perhaps helpful to
others. Since you find no value in such, just skip them. I seek no
interation with you. You bore me actually. And your posts are quite
predicable. But thats me. I skip most. But sometimes something catches
my eye, often from quotes in others posts.


>and treating you as if you have a formidable
> intellect that I should enjoy interacting with.

Nope. But since you "see", that, do you think perhaps that is what you
seek?


> If I'm wrong about this, read message #118509 and
> reply in good faith and I'll give you the head-to-
> head discussion you are obviously so desperate for.

No desire for much discussion with you. Odd that you see it that
myself, Judy, perhaps everyone, is desperate to talk to you.  Have you
considered that the reason few people respond to yu rpostss is they
don't wnat to talk to you. Or they find your posts of little value?
Just another POV for your to consider. 
Or you can write your self to get the approval and applause you seem
to desperately seek and crave.


> But PLEASE stop trying to goad me into the same old
> tired discussions just because you're not tired of
> them yet.

OK, King and Lord of all goaders.


> Repetition may be the mother of retention
> and all that, but dude, some of us out there are
> not *interested* in retaining old, tired concepts
> and discussing them endlessly.

If yuo don't like my posts, simply skip them. As you often advise
others to do.

>We're 

And what clan are you speaking or? 

> more interested
> in finding new ones, even if they're only new to *us*,
> and having fun with *different* ways of looking at
> things.

So am I. One reason i hang around here is I pick up new ideas, models,
and info.









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