--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > wrote:
> <snip>
> > > I have a friend who liked some of Wagner's orchestral
> > > music, like the "Ride of the Valkyries," but found
> > > the operas themselves noisy and boring.  I talked him
> > > into getting a video of "Die Walkure" that had subtitles,
> > > and he just about flipped.  He had had no idea of the
> > > psychological, emotional, and spiritual depth that
> > > was behind all that music he'd found so noisy and
> > > boring.
> > > 
> > > (Not in any way comparing the quality of the music *or*
> > > the lyrics in my exchanges with Barry to Wagner's
> > > magnificent operas, just massaging the metaphor a bit.)
> > >
> > Point taken. However I *did* read what you two had to say to 
each 
> > other for many many months- all of it- and aside from me 
agreeing 
> > with you that Barry has specific deficiencies or me agreeing 
with 
> > Barry that you do, I'd rather just let the music continue and 
see 
> > where it goes.
> 
> Here's what you said to start with that I was
> commenting on:
> 
> > > I don't bother with the specific points and 
> > > justifications, because as far as I can
> > > tell, there aren't any.
> 
> Seems a little different from what you're saying
> above.

I admit I was generalizing somewhat, and explained where my 
attention was, later on.
 
> Just as an aside, I continue to be flabbergasted
> that dishonesty and hypocrisy aren't at the top
> of folks' lists of deficiencies, and that they
> seem to tolerate them as easily as, say, the
> deficiencies of being abrasive or of nit-picking.

I look at it as a matter of what I can do anything about. I also 
noticed awhile back that sometimes what is really bugging me isn't 
having as powerful an effect on others as it is on me. So I focus on 
*me* for awhile, and why the particular situation is bothering me so 
much. My conclusion has usually been that the situation I am dealing 
with makes me feel powerless, afraid, or weak in some way.
> 
> > Its actually pretty fascinating from a karmic 
> > standpoint, considering that you've not met each
> > other, at least not recently...
> 
> Must be nice to be able to take a karmic standpoint.
> Not quite sure how that would work, actually, the
> course of action being unfathomable, and all that.
>
I am kinda speculating that for such an attachment to be so strong, 
there had to have been prior involvement.

Best regards.




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