Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ADHD: Meditation, not Medication

[Vaj]

On Oct 23, 2006, at 9:33 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: suziezuzie wrote: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3gT8wopZJNQ About any form of meditation will do that.  Shiva mantras are safer for  kids.  They should also look into the ayurvedic connection because they  are correcting a physical imbalance in the first place. Actually, NOT any form of meditation does that.Tibetan Nyingmapa and Kagyupa  meditation  techniques have a radically different affect on subjects as measured EEG and brain  imaging.  Restful alertness ala TM is quite different than whatever is happening during those  techniques. Also, thalamic activity during those techniques goes UP rather than down,  as it  does during TM.  "About" was the operative word. What long-term differences might be found in ADHD patients who practice those  techniques  as compared to TMers isn't known. The data on ADHD and TM are still being  evaluated and I  haven't heard of any studies on the Buddhist techniques and ADHD.. I understand the data from the first few months has been submitted for publication  while the  data from the followup study is being evaluated right now. What I'm thinking without bringing the doshas into balance after a while  the nervous system would just become somewhat immune to the meditation  and it wouldn't help as much. That goes completely against both common sense and experience: the more stressful you  are, the more noticable the effects of TM are. That doesn't mean that bringing the doshas  into balance isn't a good thing, just that someone who is already balanced doesn't  perceive as much benefit from TM as someone who is waaaay out of balance. There's an interesting quote in Alan Wallace's new book that probably is describing TM and jives with many experiences as to why it does not remove obsessions, etc., but may actually increase them, and thus suffering of self and others: "Many of us let compulsive thoughts dominate our minds. These won't stop overnight, but as we engage in Shamatha practice, both during and between sessions, it is important to observe the minds activities and restrain it when it falls into thought patterns that aggravate mental disturbances. Otherwise, we'll be like the cat that thrashes around on the surface of the pond, never free from the turbulence of our own minds. The Indian sage Atisha wrote of the importance of these prerequisites: As long as the prerequisites for shamatha [samadhi] Are incomplete, meditative stabilization Will not be accomplished, even if you meditate Strenuously for thousands of years. In our material society, even for people that are drawn to non-materialistic values, there's a strong tendency to take our current way of life as the norm, and then to add meditation to fix it, like a band-aid applied to a festering wound. My first experience with meditation in the late 60's is a good example. I went to a teacher who gave me a mantra and told me how to meditate on it, but in these instructions there was no reference for the way I was supposed to lead the rest of my life. Even now, decades later, meditation is often taught with little of no reference to the above prerequisites. It has been reduced to a kind of first aid to alleviate the symptoms of a dysfunctional life, with all its anxieties, depression, frustration and emotional vacillations. For a mind that is assaulted with a myriad of mental afflictions such as craving, hostility, and delusion, we need more than a medic. We need long-term, intensive care.That's what this training is all about." __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___