On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:22 PM, kaladevi93 wrote:
You mean like one of Mahesh's beautiful and primary students recently
going insane?
Thanks for reminding me.
I'm sure Vaj might agree, he's mentioned it before here: Dzogchen
begins where Unity
ends. At least that's the gist of Shearer's "official" comments,
right Vaj?
Well kinda. The basic Dzogchen transmission is the transmission of
what TMers might parrot as "Unity Consciousness". Shearer says that
different darshanas have different states of consciousness as their
goal and that Dzogchen's "darshana" (more precisely, it's drsti or
View) is that of Unity. So, yes, it begins there. But that is only
part of the story. Much of Dzogchen is beyond anything most Tm people
would understand. There is a certain amount of overlap if you accept
that Advaita Vedanta (as a darshana) and it's "result", brahma-
chetana, is similar experientially to the acquisition of the Dzogchen
View. Of course TM does not lead to Buddhahood and would certainly be
considered a false path on a number of grounds. Most TMers don't even
comprehend that both TM and the TMSP are soundly part of the yoga and
samakhya darshanas, but expect to somehow, miraculously jump paths
and Views. Yoga darshana and samkhya darshana both have the same
result: turiyatita ("CC"). What all of the TMers who claim
"enlightenment" share in common is that they're describing vikeka-
khyati, an impermanent state. And short of CC.
It's extremely unpopular to point this failing out.
Thanks for having the courage to speak the truth.
Thank you. :-)
