Peter, thanks for this (below). Really explains a lot of my own meditation experience for many years.
However, I found that my experience changed after I read Nisargadatta. The clarity that is characteristic of meditation (and life) now is wholly in line with what I have learned from Maharishi but wasn't appreciated until I got the push from Nisargadatta. Like everything, the advent of a new awareness or understanding seems to be causally related to a prior act to which we assign significance, but it's merely a co-incidence of events, each inextricable and part of the entire picture, but not in a cause and effect relationship. It's the same refrain of the crow alighting on the tree and the coconut falling, repeated throughout the Yoga Vasishta; we interpret life and experience as effects and consequences, but it is neither one nor the other; it just is as it is. Thanks again. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > llundrub wrote: > > > TM is not different from Dzogchen. > > > > > So, you're saying that Dzogchen is non-different > > from TM. > > > > When one past thought has ceased and a future > > thought > > has not yet arisen, "in that gap, in between", > > there's > > a conciousness of the present moment; "fresh, > > unaltered > > by even a hair's breadth of concept, a luminous, > > naked > > awareness." That is what Rigpa is, according to > > Sogyal! > > > > 'TM, Dzogchen, and staying in the View' > > http://tinyurl.com/yd4urd > > > However for many simply the cessation of thoughts does > not give rise to pure consciousness because of the > foundational projection/identification of > consciousness with chitta. Cessation of > thought/vrittis in chitta while identification is > still present is a laya and not samadhi. I believe > many of the decades long meditators are stuck in a > laya when they meditate. They experience peace and, > bliss, but it rarely moves into pure consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
