--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I feel a bit bad for these pundits. I think the
> administration idealized them a bit too much and
> failed to recognize that they are not only pundits,
> but also young men with a curiosity and desire to "see
> America."
> 
> --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > From a friend:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > *   There are 110 mother divine. In my opinion they
> > are Not so divine or
> > they would volunteer to downsize or share their
> > accommodations for the use
> > of themselves or others enough said. Many more could
> > fit well into  trailers
> > by bunching up. 
> > *   On the 8 Nov. '06 there were 106 Purusha in town &
> > 456 pundits &
> > cooks etc. I did not get the ratio of cooks to
> > pundits. 23 more arrived to
> > that number in the night of Friday the 8 Nov. or
> > early Sat. morning. I saw 2
> > buses so perhaps this figure is one bus short. 23
> > more were expected next
> > day so the figures may be off by 23 but to my figure
> > you may well add 46. 
> > *   I was led to understand they may not increase the
> > numbers till Jan.
> > 07 but then far more will be in the pipeline to FF. 
> > 
> > *   Some of the pundits are rather unhappy for the
> > trip here did NOT fit
> > their personal vision of life here as they had
> > envisioned it for so many
> > years in various spots in India. They felt or
> > dreamed that when they came
> > here they would be able to interact much more with
> > people at the university.
> > That dream was shattered. It was never promised to
> > them. Only a trip to the
> > states was promised. They trained many years for
> > this. 
> > *   They are from all over India & are housed by
> > language groups: Hindi,
> > Bengali etc. The different language groups cannot
> > speak between themselves
> > as yet. For this they use several translators. Three
> > inside the group but
> > some outside the fence/cage. (The pundits' living
> > area is a cantonment
> > surrounded by a high chain link fence, covered with
> > a tarp, so that they
> > cannot get out or even see out, except out the rear
> > in the direction of some
> > private stapathya ved homes, nor can others get or
> > see in.) 
> > *   My personal feeling it's not the best for them.
> > University
> > administrators are not primarily motivated by love
> > for the pundits, or
> > concern for their home sickness but by the feeling
> > that their program would
> > suffer and thus we all would suffer if they were NOT
> > single pointed. Only a
> > few of the pundits long for the freedom from the
> > wall/fence - mostly the
> > younger ones. The more mature ones understand &
> > willingly accept this,
> > knowing that as conditions & housing improve will
> > enjoy more freedom out in
> > Vedic City. 
> > *   Their commitment is to Save N. America from some
> > terrible event or
> > series of events. Even eliminating the stress of
> > earthquakes or mountain
> > violence as far as the Cascade Mts. or Yellowstone
> > area etc. Thus they stay
> > with in the walls/fences. The cooks only come to the
> > gate to receive food &
> > necessities. NO woman is allowed, as is the case in
> > India as well. 
> > *   Some western staff men are allowed in daily to
> > clean the things
> > reserved for "dalits" - untouchable - i.e., toilets
> > etc. but they have to
> > take oaths that they will just do their jobs and
> > avoid speaking much & make
> > eye contact only if necessary. They are monitored as
> > any maid would be to
> > see their work is completed well & silently. The
> > toilets used are not
> > Western ones but the squatting type used in India.
> > 
> >  
> > 

They don't speak english, none is talking to them, yet you have all 
this information ?

Probably the movement obtained the visas on the ground that the 
pundits did not leave the grounds.

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