--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
>
> >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is an important technique and taught in many of the
higher
> > > yogas
> > > > of both Hindu and Buddhist tantra.
> > > >
> > > > It is not taught in TM or the TMSP. <snip>
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <rorygoff@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It has been an automatic *result* of the TM/TMSP (and in the
> > pathless
> > > path emerging from and always underlying their built-in self-
> > > transcendence); at any rate that has been my experience. Even
> > > wounded, pain-filled, rebellious, critical, superior,
supercilious,
> > > arrogant, rage-filled, hate-filled, blaming, victimized,
caught-in-
> > a-
> > > tape-loop, stuck-in-a-rut, unable-to-listen, particles in me
> > > eventually have found their ultimate rest in the irresistible
grace-
> > > flow of Love initiated with TM and TMSP, and more miraculous
still,
> > > have even found that their very *rebellion itself* is and has
> > always
> > > been perfect waves of perfect expression on the immense Ocean
of
> > > His/my Being. There has never been an error.
> > >
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Oh, right -- and even particles so stuck-in-a-rut that they are
in
> > complete denial that they *are* rage-filled, etc...!..have *also*
> > found their rest in Our Being. These sometimes take a little
longer
> > to realize the pre-existent perfection, but what is time in the
face
> > of the timeless? :-)
> >
> > *L*L*L*
>
>
> That's not my experience of non-proliferation of karmic winds at
all,
> although your description was very colorful.
>
> In some practitioners of the TMSP, what yogins are finding is
> exacerbation of the karmic nadis and entrapment in non-bindu
> resolving routes. Left unresolved and not re-routed to the
central
> channel the prognosis is for lifetimes of suffering, and a
downward
> turn on the wheel of samsara is almost guaranteed.
>
> Cutting off of karmic winds has a very different, if not opposite
> effect. It closes the door to downward turning incarnations and
sets
> one truly free. It's real signs are unmistakable once achieved.
>
Dude, I also heard that rock and roll is the work of the DEVIL.
Ooooooh. :-)
