--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 25, 2007, at 10:17 AM, new.morning wrote: > > > Can you absolutely know that it's true? > > > I hate to bring up what seems obvious to me, but there are objective > ways to test states of enlightenment which have been used > successfully for thousands of years. These are simple tests. If you > claim to be enlightened thru an approach that used samadhi--nitya- > samadhi (permanent samadhi, CC) as MMY called it, it is easy to test. > Rather recently there was a rather famous western Tibetan Buddhist > who claimed a high stage of enlightenment and it was interesting the > type of verification they used. The person had to be capable of > performing certain siddhis at will. When he did not meet any of the > criteria, HHDL's office issued a statement essentially saying this > person was not who he claimed to be.
I hate to bring up what seems obvious to me, but .. I hope you can see through the mass of assumptions you cling to to make the above assertion. >
