--- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > [big snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > but my involvement in such things is limited to just this > > > > > > board, one other, and my daily practice of TM. I have no > > > > involvement > > > > > > nor do I discuss my spiritual life with anyone or any group > > > > outside > > > > > > this and one other forum.:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's irrelevant to this discussion. > > > > > > > > > OK- Thanks for your comments. In such an online discussion it is > > > > difficult for me to see what the real issues are sometimes. So, > > you > > > > want me to say that I understand that Maharishi has done some > > things > > > > or caused those in his organization to do some things which > > others > > > > see as wrong. Yes, I see that. > > > > > > > > Second issue seems to be: Do I admit that Maharishi has done > > some > > > > things that are wrong, and therefore these things impact my > > judgment > > > > of his credibility? And my answer is that whatever he may have > > done > > > > that is wrong doesn't impact my view of him. Which speaks > > directly > > > > to the critical issue here of what I am attempting to get from > > him > > > > that requires that his credibility remain absolutely intact. > > Because > > > > the two are intimately linked; need and credibility. > > > > > > > > > This isn't about 'you' Jim OR what 'you' need or believe. It's > > about > > > Maharishi's legitimacy as a teacher and spiritual icon in terms of > > > right and wrong and the implications that flow from that for the > > > movement, all TMers and the public. > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing I need from Maharishi. Absolutely nothing at > > all. > > > > Zip. Not enlightenment, or CC or GC or UC or Brahman, or any > > > > explanations, elucidations, clarifications, techniques, or > > anything > > > > else. That being said, there is nothing he can do to affect his > > > > credibility with me. I want nothing from Maharishi, past, > > present or > > > > future. > > > > > > > > I hope this settles the question with you John. We appear to > > have > > > > very different needs with regard to our relationship with > > > > Maharishi.:-) > > > > > > The discussion has *nothing* to do at all with what you or I might > > > "need" from Maharishi. It appears that you're tap dancing and that > > > it's a waste of time to discuss this any further with you. That's > > > unfortunate... for me, as I was beginning to feel that someone like > > > you would openly address this issue. > > > > > Not tap dancing at all. What is there to do? Post stuff on that TM > > Free website? What do you want to do? Again, it comes down to your > > objectives. What are your objectives here? > > > > If Maharishi's reputation is sullied and it affects his credibility > > in the eyes of the public, and therefore fewer people will see the > > legitimacy of TM, what is there to do? Must something be done, or > > can we trust that as Maharishi once said, "all is well and wisely > > set"? What kind of result are you looking for? :-) > > > Again, you're tap dancing. It isn't a matter of "what to do". That's > just another dodge. [Seems the dodges are endless with you.] It's a > matter of acknowledgement and discussion. You appear unwilling to > directly acknowledge or to directly discuss the objective facts that > I've brought up. You treat all of this as if it has no significance. > But it does and you won't even admit that.
Great facts I must say... not
