--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > wrote:
[snip] > > > You appear to have a set of assumptions you are making and I > have no > > > idea what those are, which I am then accused of obscuring. Very > > > strange. Anyway, good luck?:-) > > > > No assumptions, Jim. Very specific items. > > > > Either you have a convenient ability to forget what I wrote to you > or > > you're just being dishonest. > > Not dishonest, just busy with life. Thanks for the summary.:-) > > Below is what I wrote to you. I've > > summarized it below that: > > > <snip> Just to make it more specific and simple: > > > > Banning initiations in Great Britain > > No problem with this. He began the Movement, and as its "CEO" he can > do what he likes.:-) > > > > Closing TM Centers > > Same as above.:-) > > > > Promoting and abandoning bizarre costly projects > > Same as above.:-) > > > > The King Tony stuff > > I assume you mean the way he treats Tony Nader, and the position he > holds in the Movement. > Same as above.:-) > > > > Pitches for mega amounts of cash > > Same as above.:-) > > > > The disappearance of millions of those dollars after he gets them > > > I have stopped contributing any money to the TMO, except for $50 for > the pundit program in Iowa. I have no idea where the money goes. As > I've mentioned before, the Movement makes a big deal of being rich, > though there is always an air of shabbiness around it. > > Yes, the Movement has changed, and Maharishi has changed what he has > said about the direction of it, and his intentions for it. This is > decidedly different from the way all of the major religions operate, > because with dogma we get certainty. And with dogma it is easy to > keep saying the same things over and over again, as if they mean > something. People like that. Except that it doesn't lead to > enlightenment. Only a path that is dynamic, breaks boundaries, and > is headed by a supremely enlightened teacher has a hope of leading > its followers to a result of supreme glory, fulfillment and the ever > changing, ever fulfilling Reality of Brahman, and that path is > Maharishi's path for us. As the bumper sticker says, "lead, follow, > or get out of the way". > > Thank you for asking my opinion of these things. Sorry it took so > long to get back to the meat of the issues-- my bad. Jai Guru Dev. > Om Shiva.:-) Your words, Jim, in response to almost everything on the abbreviated list I provided: "No problem with this. He began the Movement, and as its "CEO" he can do what he likes." You've set Maharishi at a level of a corporate CEO instead of a spiritual icon. I would tend to agree with that assessment of him however, and further suggest that that indicates that he isn't much beyond your average CEO in standards or ethics. I find it interesting that the only thing that seemed to get your attention in the short list I provided was the disposition of the missing million$ - even though in the thread I extensively elaborated on the other items on that list. That certainly reveals your position on Maharishi as a teacher and as a spiritual icon. It reveals that you are indifferent to whether he has any particular standards or not. Guru Dev himself, as a young boy, had very rigid standards for whomever was to become his teacher. And Guru Dev himself exemplified the highest standards of spiritual ethics. What's a bummer to me is that TMers like you seem to think that 'all is well' WITHOUT any of those standards. And people like Jerry ask questions like, "Do you know any billionaires?" as if cash is the 'great answer' in lieu of Paramatman. Something's rotten in Denmark in my view and the population refuses to notice it, even when it's clearly pointed out. I've experienced that many of those people like it that way however, and will and have overtly, even viciously, attempted to eliminate any effort to make it any different.
