I have to say I agree with Kevin. While the current system is
undoubtedly flawed, I do not believe that the introduction of further
restrictions on people who genuinely want to study and practice law is
the answer.

The true limitation should be market demand. Sarah mentions that
perhaps the Law Society could make it more attractive for firms to
take on more apprentices, but I really do not see how this would
improve matters. At the end of the day, what would be the point in
creating yet more apprenticeship places when the market place is
already flooded with newly qualified solicitors who cannot find work.

As for capping the number of people who sit the FE1s, I cannot see how
this would be workable either. Do you restrict the number according to
academic results? To people who have recognised law degrees? To people
who have already secured training contracts? Given the widespread
perception that these are often secured on the basis of contacts,
surely this would only exasperate matters in that regard. Therefore,
do you somehow regulate the basis for awarding apprenticeships? Again,
this really wouldn't be practical. We all know that in reality just
because a person may have obtained impressive academic results, this
does not necessarily mean that they will have the requisite people
skills for practising as a solicitor, which generally involves a great
deal of client contact.

As pointed out by many people already, we are already subject to many
seemingly unduly restrictive limitations such as the two limitation
periods, the rule of three in the FE1s etc, which presumably are
designed to curb numbers (and call me cynical, but are coincidentally
a handy money spinner for the Law Society). I agree with Sarah that it
may seem "like it is an easy route for graduates who have no other
clear cut ambition, esp if they have contacts", but I think we are all
only too aware that the opposite is true. It is not an easy route at
all, even if you are hell-bent on practising law. I do not think
sparing the time and money of those who are doing it as an "easy
option" or for glamour's sake and haven't taken time to research the
reality of the profession, warrants the imposition of further
restrictions on those of us who genuinely want to practice law.

What I would like to see is a more transparent approach to the FE1s by
the Law Society. It is clear from the exam reports that the amount of
people who pass each exam is in or around the 48% mark on a consistent
basis (obviously this varies from subject to subject, and from sitting
to sitting). I would be in favour of the Law Society capping the
number of people who PASS the exams (as they are most likely doing
this anyway) and clearly state, for example, that the highest 300
results in each exam will be considered to have passed. Thereby, if
you wish to pursue a career in law, you will not be precluded from
attempting to do so on the basis of some arbitrary restriction.
However, you will be more informed of your chances of success prior to
parting a minimum of €840. Also it would mean that the Law Society
would not automatically be cutting their income (something I imagine
they would be reluctant to do), thus reducing the risk of increased
PPC fees to counteract any such loss. Also I would advocate that all
candidates should have an opportunity to view their paper, and the
marking scheme. I'm sure that they would probably charge for this, it
would mean more income for them, but at least you wouldn't be blindly
resitting exams or paying for rechecks, without doing so on the basis
of a reasonable evaluation of your paper outside of exam
circumstances, rather than handing over money in blind hope.

While there is clearly a lot of room for improvement in the current
system, I do not believe a knee-jerk restriction on access to the
profession is the correct way to go about it.


On Feb 19, 3:46 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> "It doesnt make sense that there is no limit
> to the amountt of students that can sit the exams with no regard to
> the future of those students."
>
> I certainly agree with all the sentiments herein.  However, just
> imagine if there were such limits and you found yourself on the wrong
> end of a cut-off point?  I think its just the way everything has been
> going that regulatory bodies can't just limit access to professions.
> The logic is that markets should do that - if the job is unattractive,
> no-one will do it.  If people are trying to do, it must be
> attractive.  But I think that works best on assumptions of perfect
> information.  Our real gripe, I think, is that people still have, as
> you rightly say, the over-glamourised view of the job.  I would hate
> to see, however, any introduction of caps or limits.
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