I have to say that Nutrical was invaluable to us in saving Autumn's life. She couldn't keep anything down and everytime she had diarrhea, she also vomited. Nutrical and Pedialyte kept her hydrated and nourished. I am sure that without it we would have lost her. Of course, we got her back on her Evo and prescription soft food as soon as she could keep it down.

My mother also used Nutrical as a suplement for a 20 year old cat. She lived to be 24! Not all cats like it though.


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On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:33 AM, "Diane Rosenfeldt" <drosenfe...@wi.rr.com> wrote:

This was definitely the case with my Luc, who stopped eating and we didn't notice right away (4 other cats free-feeding from same bowls). Still don't know if it was some sort of pancreatitis or what. Finally noticed he wasn't himself, took to high-class emergency vet 20 miles away for tests -- hepatic lipidosis. We had an esophageal tube inserted and fed him A/D from the vet's office watered down and blendered, which we alternately syringed and
spooned down the tube using a small funnel (it was really easy for one
slightly larger bit of food to block the syringe). This went on for a few days and then he started licking A/D off a spoon. We still tube-fed him for
another couple days but his appetite picked right up.

From another list I'm on, I understand that for newborns at least, corn
syrup (most often rubbed on their gums) is a zero-energy-expending way for them to get some nourishment. I wonder if that is the rationale behind the
Nutrical formula?

Diane R.

-----Original Message-----
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:12 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wilson and I

I don't want to get into a food fight with Karen but Nutri-Cal should not be
used as a replacement for food.  Here are the ingredients from Doctors
Foster and Smith web site.

Regular Nutri-Cal
Ingredients: Corn Syrup, Soybean Oil, Malt Syrup, Cod Liver Oil, Cane
Molasses, Methylcellulose, Water, Gelatin By-products, dl-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Sodium Benzoate (Preservative), Manganese Sulfate, Iron
Peptonate, Thiamine HCl, Niacinamide, Calcium Pantothenate (Source of
Calcium and Pantothenic Acid), Magnesium Sulfate, Pyridoxine HCl, Vitamin A
Palmitate & D3 supplement, Potassium Iodide (Source of Iodine and
Potassium), Riboflavin5, Phosphate Sodium (Source of Vitamin B2 and
Phosphorus), Folic Acid and Cyancobalamin (Vitamin B12).

As you can see the primary ingredient is corn oil. A much better choice for short term assistance is meat baby food. A jar of Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy has 100 calories. Try to work up to 200 calories per day with Wilson. The only way to know for sure if he is getting enough calories is to weigh
him regularly on a good digital postal or baby scale.  Most pate style
canned foods can be blended with a little liquid and are easily syringed. My Pequita, CRF, prefers her food offered on a baby spoon. She wont eat off
her plate but I am able to maintain her body wt. by offering her food
several times per day on her baby spoon. Each kitty is unique. You just need to find the feeding method that works best for Wilson. May kitties
will start eating on their own again once they feel better.

--- On Fri, 4/24/09, Karen Griffith <griff...@frognet.net> wrote:

From: Karen Griffith <griff...@frognet.net>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wilson and I
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 2:58 AM

It is great that you are getting some food down him. You can also
syringe feed Nutrical (can get from your vet or order online, but vet
would be best bet due to delay for shipping), though they usually lap
it up themselves if they are not in too bad of shape.  About 3cc
twice/day will do wonders, and can be used for a total food
replacement in totally anorexic cats.  The B-complex vitamins in it
will also stimulate appetite. 3cc once/day will do if they are eating
anything at all (10 lb. cat).  Since you are a nurse, you will also
easily be able to give him sub/cutanious fluids. It is important that
his fluid and electrolytes are sufficient.  Lactated Ringers are
better than saline, due to the extra electrolytes.
About 100cc/day with an 18 g needle will help.  May need to put it in
2 injection sites.  As a rule of thumb, don't get a bigger bubble of
fluids under the skin that a 10 year old child can cup in their hand.

Wishing you good luck.  Sounds like you are making progress.  I just
got back in the house, and will be online for a while longer. You can email me at griff...@frognet.net if you have questions. I am rural as
well and on dial up.  If I receive your email, I can go off-line and
give you a call.

Karen Griffith

----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Eaton" <jude...@yahoo.com>
To: "Feline leukemia" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:35 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Wilson and I

Thanks for all your comments, especially about
feeding. We had guests over for dinner tonight and I couldn't wait
until they left so I could get to my computer..after I began syringe
feeding Wilson. Both of us quit after about 20 ccs of cat food, but I
then got on the assisted feeding site and was encouraged. Wilson
actually was swallowing the syringed food rather gratefully, as long
as I didn't push it too fast. My husband helped keep both me and the
cat calm!

So we are starting on a new thing here.

Sympathy to Sharyl on the loss of Houdini...and thanks
for the extra emphasis on the feeding that got me into real action. I
am used to dealing with people who won't eat, not cats, and had no
idea that no food for a short time can be fatal.

Judy and Wilson

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