there's no mention of it in the 2008 AAFP guidelines, and i would expect it
to be there.



On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:51 PM, jbero tds.net <jb...@tds.net> wrote:

> Granted it is older, but I see nothing in the literature later to refute
> this information.
>
> On 4/20/10, MaryChristine <twelvehousec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > check the date: 1996. see my other note!
> >
> > i found a link to a 2000 article in the same journal. is there anything
> > later than, say, 2005?
> >
> > MC
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:31 PM, jbero tds.net <jb...@tds.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Okay, this is kind of technical but it basically supports the idea that
> > > mutations (in this case deletions in DNA) result in a more virulent and
> > > pathogenic virus worsening the disease state as these mutations are
> > gained
> > > by the virus.  Here's the link.
> > >
> > > http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/reprint/70/1/359.pdf
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/20/10, MaryChristine <twelvehousec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i do know that there are different strains, but really haven't
> > > encountered
> > > > this before--so anything you send to the list will be gratefully
> > > digested!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:17 PM, jbero tds.net <jb...@tds.net>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, it's felv type c.  You know how there are three types A and B
> > > being
> > > > > those transmitted and C being the mutated form that primarily
> causes
> > > > > disease.  Let me see if I can find a good paper.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jenny
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 4/20/10, MaryChristine <twelvehousec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jeni, i have NEVER seen or heard about mutated versions of
> > > FeLV--FeCoV,
> > > > > > yes,
> > > > > > which mutates into FIP. but this is something completely new, and
> i
> > > > would
> > > > > > like to see some backing for the statement.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > there is significant research that implies that many truly
> positive
> > > > FeLVs
> > > > > > NEVER become symptomatic, and that they are NOT contagious--the
> > 2008
> > > > AAFP
> > > > > > guidelines show the citations for this, and it is NOT new
> research,
> > > > just
> > > > > > ignored.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i have also never seen any ACTUAL data proving the latency
> theory:
> > > with
> > > > > > cats
> > > > > > who are never retested after a negative test, there's no way that
> > we
> > > > will
> > > > > > ever know that the cat wasn't positive all over. there has just
> not
> > > > been
> > > > > > enough research done to know how long a truly positive cat DOES
> > shed
> > > > the
> > > > > > virus. they DO have a pretty good idea of that with FeCoV,
> because
> > > it's
> > > > > so
> > > > > > common (over 100 strains, i believe).  i guess i want a
> definition
> > of
> > > > > > latent: yes, a positive can go years without becoming
> symptomatic,
> > > and
> > > > if
> > > > > > that's all it means, fine. however, i've been seeing if used for
> > cats
> > > > who
> > > > > > only test negative once....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > more input, as they say!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MC
> > > > > > --
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