Another way to identfy urine tract problem is to observe the size of clumps in 
the ltter box.  If you find very small ones, isolate the cats 1 by 1 and check 
the clumps in the box.  Then you gather a sample and go to the vet.  That is 
how i found out about Bobby and Homey
---- Caspercat <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Not sure if this is possible but they probably got a bad batch of Frontline
> - I've used it in the Northeast with zero proplems (and like it because it
> addresses fleas & ticks).  My vet also started using a product called
> v-somthing but it doesn't help with ticks.  If you know for sure you only
> have a flea problem (no ticks) then advantage is a good product (and will
> get rid of ear mites and worms as well).  Just spoke to a lady yesterday who
> does rescue.  She orders advantage from Canada via the mail as it is much
> cheaper that way.
> 
> About the stones - does the cat appear to be straining when peeing or appear
> constipated?  That would be indicative of stones.   Also if the cat is prone
> to stones he may have developed an aversion to using the litter box
> and choose other objects to pee on instead or he may have developed an
> aversion to using the litter box for another reason.  So changing the type
> of litter you use may help.  Having said all that we had a cat that prone to
> UTIs and they way she would let us know she had one is by peeing on our bed
> (hooray for waterproof matress covers).
> 
> Is there anyway you can call and ask your vet at home what they use to
> diagnose kidney stones?
> 
> In googling feline kidney stones it appears that x-trays or ultrasounds are
> used for diagnosis.  Found x-rays mentioned on a couple of sites (but note
> that the information below is from a site I just found by googling so not
> sure how good it is  http://www.cat-health-guide.org/felinekidneystones.html).
> My guess is that if the vet finds no stones via x-ray the next step they
> will suggest an ultrasound (which of course is even more expensive).
> 
> "If cat kidney stones are suspected, your vet will take x-rays. The stones
> will usually show up white on the x-ray. Some kinds of stones don’t show up
> on x-rays and can only be seen by ultrasound. Your vet will look for stones
> elsewhere in the urinary tract as well.
> 
> Your vet will also test your cat’s urine to see if she has a bladder
> infection. Bladder infections are very common in pets with kidney stones. "
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Cindy McHugh <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > This is a little off topic, but please forgive me. My email is acting up
> > and I've been unsubbed from my more "general" cat discussion list.
> >
> > I'm fostering a neutered male cat that is urinating outside of the
> > litterbox. This was one of the reasons he was relinquished several months
> > ago - and one of the reasons his former owner kept him in a basement for 3
> > years. He seemed to be doing well here and was overcoming some of his other
> > issues (aggression and obsessive licking/chewing), but he urinated on my bed
> > about 2 months ago and then on an upholstered chair. I was fostering 2 dogs
> > at the time and attributed it to stress over the dogs. They were adopted and
> > all was well until a couple days ago.
> >
> > He's urinated on a chair and on the bare floor 3 times in the past 2 days.
> > There's large amounts of urnie, no trace of blood, and he does also use his
> > litterbox. I don't think he has a UTI based on his past behavior, but I
> > thought I'd run him to the vet to be sure. I'm not at home, so I used a
> > clinic that is relatively new to me and I was surprised by what I was told,
> > so I thought I'd run it by you folks...
> >
> > In the past, when I've suspected a UTI in a dog or cat, I simply took a
> > urine sample (dog) or took the cat and they obtained one, checked it, and
> > gave me an answer and antibiotic if needed.
> >
> > The vet today told me they could do an "in house" check, but it wouldn't
> > really give us much information and I advised I send it away for a culture.
> > She also suggested they x-ray his abdomen to check for stones. This is not
> > my cat, but it is in the care of a rescue I co-founded. We want to do what's
> > necessary to help the cat, but we don't have extra funds for
> > tests/procedures that are not necessary.
> >
> > If I had seen my regular vet (at home) and she suggested these procedures,
> > I wouldn't hesitate, but I get the feeling this vet is more interested in
> > money. The other reason I say this is because we just spent more than $100
> > on flea products recommended by another vet in this office. When I mentioned
> > today that the Frontline doesn't seem to be helping the flea situation, the
> > vet and tech both said they've had many, many complaints about Frontline
> > this summer and agreed that it's ineffective (in this area, anyway). The vet
> > said the fleas laugh at Frontline. They suggested I purchase another flea
> > product (V-something, I didn't catch the name). They said it's the same
> > price, but much more effective. This is the same place that swore by, and
> > sold me, Frontline about a week ago.
> >
> > They're holding the urine sample overnight because I wanted to see what
> > tests the cat had by his prior owner. (I didn't have the vet records with me
> > at the time.)
> >
> > If he needs the culture and x-rays, I'll have it done. But I don't want to
> > spend the rescue's very limited funds needlessly. Any input would be most
> > welcome. The cat is NOT  FeLV+.
> >
> > Thank you for your time.
> > Cindy
> >
> >
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