Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live.
I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her quality of whatever life she has........ Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. kat On 7/8/11, MaiMaiPG <maima...@gmail.com> wrote: > His tongue does not hang out the side of his mouth nor does he look > like he is panting....and he does look adorable. Sorry to give any > other impression. > On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Natalie wrote: > >> The hanging out tongue must be something other than missing teeth. >> We have >> quite a few cats with no teeth, and their tongues don't hang out the >> side of >> their mouths, if anything, the tips of the tongue might stick out in >> front - >> and looks adorable. We have some real oldtimers here - started out >> feral >> and are mushes now..... >> Life with bad teeth must be absolutely horrible and painful I am >> always >> surprised how toothless cats just love dry food! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG >> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:31 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG >> >> Pretty Boy, a feral who hangs around and who is very loved, was live >> trapped for neutering. The vet called me after they put him >> under...he had shuttered in pain when they put a tube in his mouth. >> She checked his teeth and they were totally awful. Most of them were >> pulled. The only side effect is that his tongue hangs out a lot of >> the time...no teeth to help him keep it in...or maybe he is expressing >> his opinion. He eats both canned and dry food with the rest of the >> clan and is so handsome. He is probably 13-14 years old (per vet) and >> is a total doll. Like the rest of the clan, he is not touchable most >> of the time. He fusses and fumes and catches ground squirrels and >> others who are stupid enough to come into an area guarded by numerous >> cats. Removing his teeth has definitely improved the quality if not >> quantity of his life. As far as I know, none of the clan is FeLV+. >> On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: >> >>> Yes, in cats (and in humans) the constant infections and abscesses >>> in a bad >>> mouth of teeth have all sorts of dire consequences in the rest of >>> the body's >>> systems. I have never heard anyone who regretted having some or all >>> of their >>> babies' teeth pulled in the interests of clearing up stomatitis, etc. >>> >>> Diane R. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:00 AM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG >>> >>> Yes, we have had 3 cases (2 rescues of mine, one a friend's so I >>> don't know >>> his testing status, he could be FIV+ though, he was a big male >>> brought in >>> from the streets) of full mouth extractions that resulted in a very >>> sick >>> kitty soon becoming a 'brand new cat". One is a year out from the >>> extraction, the other is 2 years out, both are doing so well! Both >>> of >>> those guys were negative. My friend's kitty is doing wonderfully, >>> too, and >>> his full mouth extraction was done by our humane society low-cost >>> clinic for >>> a fraction of what my guys were done for--most low cost clinics >>> probably >>> can't do that, though. >>> >>> All 3 of these guys now also eat dry food, by their own liking, I >>> couldn't >>> believe it. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Your cats had stomatitis? And it helped having all teeth removed? >>>> The problem with doing this to a cat with immunodeficiencies is >>>> (ours >>>> is >>>> FIV+, which is better than FeLV+) obviously slightly more risky! It >>>> FIV+does >>>> sound rather drastic, doesn't it? >>>> We have several old cats without teeth, and they look like they're >>>> chomping a way at dry food...they just swallow it and love it more >>>> than canned food at times. >>>> Natalie >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:18 AM >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG >>>> >>>> Hope the DMG proves to be helpful, but just thought I'd mention >>>> the 3 >>>> we've had who had full mouth extractions were like new cats >>>> afterwards, and have done wonderfully ever since. They were not >>>> FELV >>>> cats, though. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Has any vet ever suggested using DMG (N, N-DIMETHYLGLYCINE)for >>>>> FeLV+ >>>> cats? >>>>> >>>>> I AM USING IT ON A FIV+ CAT THAT HAS PAINFUL STOMATITIS IN THE >>>>> MOUTH, TO THE POINT WHERE HE COULDN'T EAT; FIV/FeLV+ cats often get >>>>> that condition, and unfortunately, the only suggested and >>>>> supposedly >>>>> appropriate thing is to have their teeth pulled by a specialist, >>>>> with special emphasis on >>>> cleaning >>>>> out the areas extremely well. My vet says that he doesn't like >>>>> doing it because often it doesn't help at all, so we are trying >>>>> DMG. >>>>> >>>>> I am using the liquid form, but it apparently also comes in >>>>> different forms. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It has many clinical uses and a variety of applications: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=N%2C+N- >>>>> DIMETHYLGLYCIN >>>>> E >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org