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-----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG Try putting a plea for vet help on Animal Wish List. It's a Yahoo Group. Have funds go directly to the vet. Most vets will work with u on payments. katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com> wrote: >Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take >Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is >obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. > She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time >before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. > >I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - >has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are >ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. > >Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat >anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with >any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind >storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are >breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her >quality of whatever life she has........ > >Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. > >kat > >On 7/8/11, MaiMaiPG <maima...@gmail.com> wrote: >> His tongue does not hang out the side of his mouth nor does he look >> like he is panting....and he does look adorable. Sorry to give any >> other impression. >> On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Natalie wrote: >> >>> The hanging out tongue must be something other than missing teeth. >>> We have >>> quite a few cats with no teeth, and their tongues don't hang out the >>> side of >>> their mouths, if anything, the tips of the tongue might stick out in >>> front - >>> and looks adorable. We have some real oldtimers here - started out >>> feral >>> and are mushes now..... >>> Life with bad teeth must be absolutely horrible and painful I am >>> always >>> surprised how toothless cats just love dry food! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG >>> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:31 PM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG >>> >>> Pretty Boy, a feral who hangs around and who is very loved, was live >>> trapped for neutering. The vet called me after they put him >>> under...he had shuttered in pain when they put a tube in his mouth. >>> She checked his teeth and they were totally awful. Most of them were >>> pulled. The only side effect is that his tongue hangs out a lot of >>> the time...no teeth to help him keep it in...or maybe he is expressing >>> his opinion. He eats both canned and dry food with the rest of the >>> clan and is so handsome. He is probably 13-14 years old (per vet) and >>> is a total doll. Like the rest of the clan, he is not touchable most >>> of the time. He fusses and fumes and catches ground squirrels and >>> others who are stupid enough to come into an area guarded by numerous >>> cats. Removing his teeth has definitely improved the quality if not >>> quantity of his life. As far as I know, none of the clan is FeLV+. >>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, in cats (and in humans) the constant infections and abscesses >>>> in a bad >>>> mouth of teeth have all sorts of dire consequences in the rest of >>>> the body's >>>> systems. I have never heard anyone who regretted having some or all >>>> of their >>>> babies' teeth pulled in the interests of clearing up stomatitis, etc. >>>> >>>> Diane R. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:00 AM >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG >>>> >>>> Yes, we have had 3 cases (2 rescues of mine, one a friend's so I >>>> don't know >>>> his testing status, he could be FIV+ though, he was a big male >>>> brought in >>>> from the streets) of full mouth extractions that resulted in a very >>>> sick >>>> kitty soon becoming a 'brand new cat". One is a year out from the >>>> extraction, the other is 2 years out, both are doing so well! Both >>>> of >>>> those guys were negative. My friend's kitty is doing wonderfully, >>>> too, and >>>> his full mouth extraction was done by our humane society low-cost >>>> clinic for >>>> a fraction of what my guys were done for--most low cost clinics >>>> probably >>>> can't do that, though. >>>> >>>> All 3 of these guys now also eat dry food, by their own liking, I >>>> couldn't >>>> believe it. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Your cats had stomatitis? And it helped having all teeth removed? >>>>> The problem with doing this to a cat with immunodeficiencies is >>>>> (ours >>>>> is >>>>> FIV+, which is better than FeLV+) obviously slightly more risky! It >>>>> FIV+does >>>>> sound rather drastic, doesn't it? >>>>> We have several old cats without teeth, and they look like they're >>>>> chomping a way at dry food...they just swallow it and love it more >>>>> than canned food at times. >>>>> Natalie >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:18 AM >>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG >>>>> >>>>> Hope the DMG proves to be helpful, but just thought I'd mention >>>>> the 3 >>>>> we've had who had full mouth extractions were like new cats >>>>> afterwards, and have done wonderfully ever since. They were not >>>>> FELV >>>>> cats, though. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Has any vet ever suggested using DMG (N, N-DIMETHYLGLYCINE)for >>>>>> FeLV+ >>>>> cats? >>>>>> >>>>>> I AM USING IT ON A FIV+ CAT THAT HAS PAINFUL STOMATITIS IN THE >>>>>> MOUTH, TO THE POINT WHERE HE COULDN'T EAT; FIV/FeLV+ cats often get >>>>>> that condition, and unfortunately, the only suggested and >>>>>> supposedly >>>>>> appropriate thing is to have their teeth pulled by a specialist, >>>>>> with special emphasis on >>>>> cleaning >>>>>> out the areas extremely well. My vet says that he doesn't like >>>>>> doing it because often it doesn't help at all, so we are trying >>>>>> DMG. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using the liquid form, but it apparently also comes in >>>>>> different forms. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It has many clinical uses and a variety of applications: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=N%2C+N- >>>>>> DIMETHYLGLYCIN >>>>>> E >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>>>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>>> rg >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > >_______________________________________________ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
