How sad.........I am glad he was surrounded by friends when he left.
On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Edna Taylor wrote:

We recently rescued an emaciated, obviously abused Rottie mix and his HW status was so high that after talking to the vet we decided that given his body weight, unknown history, fact that he couldn't be neutered until after treatment, lack of foster homes and that the treatment would probably kill him, we loved him, played with him and as he chewed on a toy, we let him go. He was surrounded by people who cared about him in the end and sometimes, that is all we can do : ( His previous "owners" (I use that term loosely) failed him.

HW treatment is something so simple, yet I would hazard to guess that 90% (maybe more) of the dogs going into shelters and/or rescued are HW+.

Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:23:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

I'm so sorry this happened... Heartworm is basically very silent until it gets so bad the dog is in real danger. They seem to be learning all sorts
of new things about treatment which is now more complicated then when
Immiticide was first developed. Problem is that unless vet is very familiar w. treatment, they may not know about newer protocols. American Heartworm
Assoc does a decent job of describing those. But even if those are
followed, Immiticide is basically arsenic and all sorts of things can
happen. It doesn't kill adult worms but it sterilizes female worms. It does kill instantly the microfileria and as those enter the bloodstream in mass, they can create a clot which kills a dog. Then there is the more newly found parasites that actually live in an adult hw & also die & can
also cause a clot. That requires doxy for a couple of weeks before
treatment begins. And dogs need have absolute rest during treatment---not easy to do! For older, more fragile dogs, sometimes the best course is Ivermectin (Heartgard)--sterilizes worms & over a course of time, they die.
Risky but sometimes less risky than Immiticide treatment.

Basically, there is no good reason to risk subjecting a dog to this--the
costs have come down & though I'm always reluctant to over medicate,
Interceptor is one pill I don't ever forget to give my dog every month.

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[] On Behalf Of katskat1
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

I live in Ohio and watched one of my dogs die of heartworm - or technically she died of the reaction to the treatment for heartworm after she was found
to have them.
She had been coughing for months and a local vet said maybe kennel cough but not much was known about it and she was a free running dog in the country. A few months later I took her in for her annual vaccinations and new vet said heartworm had been bad in Ohio the last year or so and suggested we test. She came back positive so he started the treatment before we left that day telling me there were risks but she would likely die for sure if something wasn't tried. That night she came home and collapsed in the front yard and I watched her die. Her heart stopped. 10 PM at night, nearest emergency vet was almost 2 hours away but didn't matter cause I didn't know they existed at the time and they were in another city and no emergency
listings in local phone books. Vet I had taken her to had gone to his
daughters graduation that night and called back too late but said he
probably wouldn't have been able to do anything anyway. Autopsy showed she
had more worms than heart left.
I will NEVER not treat a dog for heartworm again.

On 7/20/11, Natalie <> wrote:
I guess it's "you're damned if you do and damned if you don't"!

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[] On Behalf Of Christiane
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

I'm not one to give my pets all sorts of meds.... but, if you've ever
seen a dog die from heartworm or actually seen what these critters
look like, you'd err on the side of caution. I'm in NY and we've gone to
year round.
While true that the mosquitoes carrying the larvae don't fly up here
from warmer climates, dogs& cats come all the time. A NY mosquito
bites a Florida infected dog & then bites a NY dog--you've got a
chance. And these days, folks travel all the time & everywhere with
their pets. Now there are places where the climate basically prevents larvae from forming... but for most of the country, there are at least times of the year when mosquitoes live that any cat or dog is at risk.
But there are choices for HW meds...
Certain breeds should never take Heartgard (Ivermectin), for example.
Thing is that HW is a silent killer. By the time the animal shows
symptoms, the disease is well advanced. And the treatment is fraught
with risk and a real strain on the animal's system. There are some
newer protocols to reduce risk--Dr. at U of FL has done major studies
which are published. Sadly, there is no treatment for cats.

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:53 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs

Heartworm drugs for pets; Big Pharma's cash cow - In a seemingly
diabolical plot, veterinarians and pharmaceutical companies have
teamed up in a marketing campaign to frighten pet guardians into
giving year-round heartworm preventatives to their cats, as well as
dogs. These so-called experts say they're doing this to improve
protection for individual pets, but the facts say their motives may be
less pure.


We had a discussion about Revolution a while back - here is a great
article on all wormers, and about Revolution, which is technically:
Selamectin is also used to treat ear mites and some intestinal worms;
adverse reactions include hair loss at the site of application,
diarrhea, vomiting, muscle tremors, anorexia, lethargy, salivation,
rapid breathing, and contact allergy.

And how veterinarians are handing out these products like candy, etc.
Important "read"!

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