What a lucky dog to have come across you - imagine him dying somewhere all alone, in pain, with nasty people taunting and chasing him...in such cases, euthanasia is the kindest solution, even though it may be heartbreaking to us! Natalie
-----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs How sad.........I am glad he was surrounded by friends when he left. On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Edna Taylor wrote: > > We recently rescued an emaciated, obviously abused Rottie mix and > his HW status was so high that after talking to the vet we decided > that given his body weight, unknown history, fact that he couldn't > be neutered until after treatment, lack of foster homes and that the > treatment would probably kill him, we loved him, played with him and > as he chewed on a toy, we let him go. He was surrounded by people > who cared about him in the end and sometimes, that is all we can do : > ( His previous "owners" (I use that term loosely) failed him. > > HW treatment is something so simple, yet I would hazard to guess > that 90% (maybe more) of the dogs going into shelters and/or rescued > are HW+. > > > >> From: ti...@mindspring.com >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:23:26 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs >> >> I'm so sorry this happened... Heartworm is basically very silent >> until it >> gets so bad the dog is in real danger. They seem to be learning all >> sorts >> of new things about treatment which is now more complicated then when >> Immiticide was first developed. Problem is that unless vet is very >> familiar >> w. treatment, they may not know about newer protocols. American >> Heartworm >> Assoc does a decent job of describing those. But even if those are >> followed, Immiticide is basically arsenic and all sorts of things can >> happen. It doesn't kill adult worms but it sterilizes female worms. >> It >> does kill instantly the microfileria and as those enter the >> bloodstream in >> mass, they can create a clot which kills a dog. Then there is the >> more >> newly found parasites that actually live in an adult hw & also die >> & can >> also cause a clot. That requires doxy for a couple of weeks before >> treatment begins. And dogs need have absolute rest during >> treatment---not >> easy to do! For older, more fragile dogs, sometimes the best course >> is >> Ivermectin (Heartgard)--sterilizes worms & over a course of time, >> they die. >> Risky but sometimes less risky than Immiticide treatment. >> >> Basically, there is no good reason to risk subjecting a dog to >> this--the >> costs have come down & though I'm always reluctant to over medicate, >> Interceptor is one pill I don't ever forget to give my dog every >> month. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 >> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:13 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs >> >> I live in Ohio and watched one of my dogs die of heartworm - or >> technically >> she died of the reaction to the treatment for heartworm after she >> was found >> to have them. >> She had been coughing for months and a local vet said maybe kennel >> cough but >> not much was known about it and she was a free running dog in the >> country. >> A few months later I took her in for her annual vaccinations and >> new vet >> said heartworm had been bad in Ohio the last year or so and >> suggested we >> test. She came back positive so he started the treatment before we >> left >> that day telling me there were risks but she would likely die for >> sure if >> something wasn't tried. That night she came home and collapsed in >> the front >> yard and I watched her die. Her heart stopped. 10 PM at night, >> nearest >> emergency vet was almost 2 hours away but didn't matter cause I >> didn't know >> they existed at the time and they were in another city and no >> emergency >> listings in local phone books. Vet I had taken her to had gone to his >> daughters graduation that night and called back too late but said he >> probably wouldn't have been able to do anything anyway. Autopsy >> showed she >> had more worms than heart left. >> I will NEVER not treat a dog for heartworm again. >> Period. >> Kat >> >> On 7/20/11, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>> I guess it's "you're damned if you do and damned if you don't"! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane >>> Biagi >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:26 PM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs >>> >>> I'm not one to give my pets all sorts of meds.... but, if you've >>> ever >>> seen a dog die from heartworm or actually seen what these critters >>> look like, you'd err on the side of caution. I'm in NY and we've >>> gone to >> year round. >>> While true that the mosquitoes carrying the larvae don't fly up here >>> from warmer climates, dogs& cats come all the time. A NY mosquito >>> bites a Florida infected dog & then bites a NY dog--you've got a >>> chance. And these days, folks travel all the time & everywhere with >>> their pets. Now there are places where the climate basically >>> prevents >>> larvae from forming... but for most of the country, there are at >>> least >>> times of the year when mosquitoes live that any cat or dog is at >>> risk. >> But there are choices for HW meds... >>> Certain breeds should never take Heartgard (Ivermectin), for >>> example. >>> Thing is that HW is a silent killer. By the time the animal shows >>> symptoms, the disease is well advanced. And the treatment is fraught >>> with risk and a real strain on the animal's system. There are some >>> newer protocols to reduce risk--Dr. at U of FL has done major >>> studies >>> which are published. Sadly, there is no treatment for cats. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:53 AM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Heartworm drugs for pets; Big Pharma's cash cow - In a seemingly >>> diabolical plot, veterinarians and pharmaceutical companies have >>> teamed up in a marketing campaign to frighten pet guardians into >>> giving year-round heartworm preventatives to their cats, as well as >>> dogs. These so-called experts say they're doing this to improve >>> protection for individual pets, but the facts say their motives >>> may be >> less pure. >>> >>> >>> o >>> <http://www.naturalnews.com/033060_heartworm_drugs_pet_health.html#ixz >>> z1SeoF >>> YKZ8> >>> http://www.naturalnews.com/033060_heartworm_drugs_pet_health.html#ixzz >>> 1SeoFY >>> KZ8 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> We had a discussion about Revolution a while back - here is a great >>> article on all wormers, and about Revolution, which is technically: >>> Selamectin is also used to treat ear mites and some intestinal >>> worms; >>> adverse reactions include hair loss at the site of application, >>> diarrhea, vomiting, muscle tremors, anorexia, lethargy, salivation, >>> rapid breathing, and contact allergy. >>> >>> And how veterinarians are handing out these products like candy, >>> etc. >>> Important "read"! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
