15 years ago, the treatment protocols for HW were very different and oftentimes lethal. Interceptor is a different chemical makeup than Heartgard. Absent the risk of Heartgard to herding breeds, I think its really a matter of personal preference. I use Interceptor for my Maltese but that's cause he was on it when I got him. I also use Frontline on him cause he's a real tick magnet--came home once from a stroll outside with 8 ticks on him!
-----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs Christiane Thank you for the info on heartworm. I always wondered what had actually make Sadi's heart stop. Thought it was the worms but apparently more than likely a clot. I remember now that the medicine was basically arsenic but didn't find that out til afterwards. This was years ago - at least 15 - and the first vet I took her to was awful at a lot of stuff and I never went back. She didn't seem to care about anything but pay at the time of service. Since then I haven't had any experience with heartworm - thank goodness! But appreciate the additional information. And now they have found new parasites that live in/off of the nasty worm itself? Yuck. Is Interceptor different than Heartgard? Is one better than the other? I have been using Revolution (Stronghold from UK-less expensive but same), on all cats and dogs but now am hearing nasty stories about it too. I was thinking/hoping it worked against heartworm for cats? Jeeze! How do you know which is best for the animals you are trying to help and love? Kat On 7/21/11, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: > What a lucky dog to have come across you - imagine him dying somewhere > all alone, in pain, with nasty people taunting and chasing him...in > such cases, euthanasia is the kindest solution, even though it may be > heartbreaking to us! Natalie > > -----Original Message----- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:19 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs > > How sad.........I am glad he was surrounded by friends when he left. > On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Edna Taylor wrote: > >> >> We recently rescued an emaciated, obviously abused Rottie mix and his >> HW status was so high that after talking to the vet we decided that >> given his body weight, unknown history, fact that he couldn't be >> neutered until after treatment, lack of foster homes and that the >> treatment would probably kill him, we loved him, played with him and >> as he chewed on a toy, we let him go. He was surrounded by people >> who cared about him in the end and sometimes, that is all we can do : >> ( His previous "owners" (I use that term loosely) failed him. >> >> HW treatment is something so simple, yet I would hazard to guess that >> 90% (maybe more) of the dogs going into shelters and/or rescued are >> HW+. >> >> >> >>> From: ti...@mindspring.com >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:23:26 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs >>> >>> I'm so sorry this happened... Heartworm is basically very silent >>> until it gets so bad the dog is in real danger. They seem to be >>> learning all sorts of new things about treatment which is now more >>> complicated then when Immiticide was first developed. Problem is >>> that unless vet is very familiar w. treatment, they may not know >>> about newer protocols. American Heartworm Assoc does a decent job of >>> describing those. But even if those are followed, Immiticide is >>> basically arsenic and all sorts of things can happen. It doesn't >>> kill adult worms but it sterilizes female worms. >>> It >>> does kill instantly the microfileria and as those enter the >>> bloodstream in mass, they can create a clot which kills a dog. Then >>> there is the more newly found parasites that actually live in an >>> adult hw & also die & can also cause a clot. That requires doxy for >>> a couple of weeks before treatment begins. And dogs need have >>> absolute rest during treatment---not easy to do! For older, more >>> fragile dogs, sometimes the best course is Ivermectin >>> (Heartgard)--sterilizes worms & over a course of time, they die. >>> Risky but sometimes less risky than Immiticide treatment. >>> >>> Basically, there is no good reason to risk subjecting a dog to >>> this--the costs have come down & though I'm always reluctant to over >>> medicate, Interceptor is one pill I don't ever forget to give my dog >>> every month. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 >>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:13 AM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs >>> >>> I live in Ohio and watched one of my dogs die of heartworm - or >>> technically she died of the reaction to the treatment for heartworm >>> after she was found to have them. >>> She had been coughing for months and a local vet said maybe kennel >>> cough but not much was known about it and she was a free running dog >>> in the country. >>> A few months later I took her in for her annual vaccinations and new >>> vet said heartworm had been bad in Ohio the last year or so and >>> suggested we test. She came back positive so he started the >>> treatment before we left that day telling me there were risks but >>> she would likely die for sure if something wasn't tried. That night >>> she came home and collapsed in the front yard and I watched her die. >>> Her heart stopped. 10 PM at night, nearest emergency vet was almost >>> 2 hours away but didn't matter cause I didn't know they existed at >>> the time and they were in another city and no emergency listings in >>> local phone books. Vet I had taken her to had gone to his daughters >>> graduation that night and called back too late but said he probably >>> wouldn't have been able to do anything anyway. Autopsy showed she >>> had more worms than heart left. >>> I will NEVER not treat a dog for heartworm again. >>> Period. >>> Kat >>> >>> On 7/20/11, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>>> I guess it's "you're damned if you do and damned if you don't"! >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Christiane Biagi >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:26 PM >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs >>>> >>>> I'm not one to give my pets all sorts of meds.... but, if you've >>>> ever seen a dog die from heartworm or actually seen what these >>>> critters look like, you'd err on the side of caution. I'm in NY and >>>> we've gone to >>> year round. >>>> While true that the mosquitoes carrying the larvae don't fly up >>>> here from warmer climates, dogs& cats come all the time. A NY >>>> mosquito bites a Florida infected dog & then bites a NY dog--you've >>>> got a chance. And these days, folks travel all the time & >>>> everywhere with their pets. Now there are places where the climate >>>> basically prevents larvae from forming... but for most of the >>>> country, there are at least times of the year when mosquitoes live >>>> that any cat or dog is at risk. >>> But there are choices for HW meds... >>>> Certain breeds should never take Heartgard (Ivermectin), for >>>> example. >>>> Thing is that HW is a silent killer. By the time the animal shows >>>> symptoms, the disease is well advanced. And the treatment is >>>> fraught with risk and a real strain on the animal's system. There >>>> are some newer protocols to reduce risk--Dr. at U of FL has done >>>> major studies which are published. Sadly, there is no treatment for >>>> cats. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:53 AM >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Heartworm drugs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Heartworm drugs for pets; Big Pharma's cash cow - In a seemingly >>>> diabolical plot, veterinarians and pharmaceutical companies have >>>> teamed up in a marketing campaign to frighten pet guardians into >>>> giving year-round heartworm preventatives to their cats, as well as >>>> dogs. These so-called experts say they're doing this to improve >>>> protection for individual pets, but the facts say their motives may >>>> be >>> less pure. >>>> >>>> >>>> o >>>> <http://www.naturalnews.com/033060_heartworm_drugs_pet_health.html# >>>> ixz >>>> z1SeoF >>>> YKZ8> >>>> http://www.naturalnews.com/033060_heartworm_drugs_pet_health.html#i >>>> xzz >>>> 1SeoFY >>>> KZ8 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We had a discussion about Revolution a while back - here is a great >>>> article on all wormers, and about Revolution, which is technically: >>>> Selamectin is also used to treat ear mites and some intestinal >>>> worms; adverse reactions include hair loss at the site of >>>> application, diarrhea, vomiting, muscle tremors, anorexia, >>>> lethargy, salivation, rapid breathing, and contact allergy. >>>> >>>> And how veterinarians are handing out these products like candy, >>>> etc. >>>> Important "read"! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. >>>> org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. >>>> org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. >>>> org >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
