I just had a thought...I have the Plumb Veterinary drug handbook and maybe I can find it in there. I'll let you know what I find out. Thanks for all your info.(-:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Maureen Olvey <[email protected]>wrote: > I'm not sure. I was thinking the kind you use has to come from the vet > and is given as in-office treatments. I think it's stronger than what you > bought for the collies but I'm not positive about it. > > > > *“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that > are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark > Twain* > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:12:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed > > > I do have a question. Is the Immunoregulon that sells on Revival Animal > Health ok to use? My Mom and I both acquired Collies that had demodectic > mange and that was one of the things we used to help treat them. > > Thanks so much > Marcia > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:47 AM, "Lynda Wilson" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I can appreciate your last paragraph, Maureen! You tell 'em girl! LOL!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Maureen Olvey <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:41 AM > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed > > It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more > vets and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about > it. But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for all cats, > even Fletch. > > What have they figured out about Fletch so far? Is his white blood cell > count down or something? What's causing his weight loss? From hearing from > others on the list, even though he has FeLV you would treat him for > his symptoms as though he didn't have FeLV. What I mean by that is don't > give up. If a vet says "oh his white blood cell count is down and there's > not much that will help because he has FeLV" then ask him what he would do > if he didn't have FeLV and to treat him accordingly. Don't let a vet assume > he is going to die everytime he gets sick. You may need to be more > aggressive with his treatment or whatever because of the FeLV but keep > fighting. If later on he has a tumor then treat him for the tumor and don't > just say "let him die." The cat may have a flare up of something or another > and then he is fine for the rest of his life. > > Over the years I've been in rescue and in dealing with feral cats I've > taken two or three to the vet that had an injury or something and when the > vet tested them for FIV they were positive. Now that's not quite as bad as > FeLV but still the vets in every case said that the cat probably wouldn't > heal from his injuries because of the FIV and they recommended killing > them. But in every case I said no that I at least wanted to give them an > opportunity to heal before putting them down and in every single case the > cat recovered. The FIV cat that I have that I mentioned was that way. He > had a bad URI and the vet said he probably wouldn't get over it. One round > of Clavamox later and he was fine. Nothing to it. That was about two and a > half years ago. He was like 8 years old at the time. I remember two others > that I took in that had wounds and the vets said it was infected and they > wouldn't recover because of the FIV. LIke I said, the vet was wrong in both > cases and the cats are now fine. > > FeLV is very dangerous and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful > eye over Fletch but it's not an automatic death sentence either. So if > funds permit, find out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and > treat it. > > And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't tell you what > I normally say to them. Something to the effect of "I'd rather be a crazy > cat (or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted wretch who didn't > appreciate God's Creations!" Better to love too much than too little so > what exactly is wrong with caring about an animal so much that you want to > do whatever you can to save it's life. If God is Love then love comes from > God and to love is to honor God and the creation that He loves. That's the > way I say it nicely ;-) Usually after that nice speech I tell them to > kiss my animal loving butt! > > > *“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that > are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark > Twain* > > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:36:51 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed > > Maureen > I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods > yet, as far as my adults go, but hoping. That seems like a miracle that your > fiv cat didn't contract felv! It seems to me, that after hearing from all of > you today that there can definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm > so grateful for all of you. And I love being with people who love cats, > because sometimes we are just as misunderstood as our feline buddies are! > Thank you Maureen. > Please take care > Marcia > > Sent from my Aug 22, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Maureen Olvey < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed with an > FIV positive cat. Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was positive since > she tested negative as a kitten. Anyway, the two lived together for two > years until she died and I just tested my old FIV kitty and he's negative. > I've got a houseful of my cats and fosters and I've only tested like 7 of > them so far but they've all been negative. None are vaccinated against FeLV > either. It's weird. I totally expected my FIV kitty to contract it. I'm > glad he didn't of course. > > One vet I talked to said that it's possible the FeLV kitty put the virus > into dormancy as a kitten which is why she tested negative and then it > reactivated later as an adult. Maybe that's what happened with Fletch. I > wouldn't have thought a kitten would have a strong enough immune system to > put the virus into dormancy but who knows. But still once it reactivated in > my cat I would have thought she could have spread the virus to my other > cats. This vet also said that most vets now days believe that healthy adult > cats are pretty much immune to the virus. Still best to vaccinate your > other cats annually but I'm just saying it's not surprising your others are > negative. > > I also have a friend who mixes her negatives and positives together. She > just keeps her negatives vaccinated annually. She even has FIV cats mixed > in and keeps them vaccinated too and they have never caught the FeLV virus. > > > Definitely get an IFA test to confirm the ELISA test. The ELISA test is > wrong in about 30% of the cases from what someone else told me. It's a very > sensitive test so if it's not done perfectly it can show a false positive. > Course since Fletch is sick it could be correct but you should still confirm > with the IFA test. If the IFA test is negative then it means the virus > hasn't gotten into his white blood cells and t-cell lymphocytes (I have no > idea what that is, I just read it) so he still has a chance of exterminating > the virus completely or putting it into dormancy. So if his IFA test is > negative then do a retest in a couple months to see if it has gotten that > far or not. You need two test with the same results to confirm FeLV status. > > If after doing the IFA, Fletch shows positive definitely look into immune > system stimulants like interferon and immunoreglin. I don't know much about > them but others on the list do and your vet should know. Need to keep > Fletch around for a long long time. Since he's sick right now I'd go ahead > and get him going on this kind of stuff. > > > *“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that > are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark > Twain* > > ------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- *Marcia Baronda* *Baronda Supplies & Service, Inc.* *1550 S 2700 Rd.* *Herington, Kansas 67449* *Phone: 785-466-2501* *Cell: 785-230-6499* ** **
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