I wish mandatory s/n worked, but apparently it doesn't correlate with lower
pound intakes.  They went up when my town passed mandatory s/n.  (Whereas
they went down when we implemented low-cost s/n.)   From Ryan Clinton (and
please send flames his way, not mine):

"Research has demonstrated that mandatory spay/neuter laws have never
worked in any community to either increase spay/neuter rates or to decrease
shelter intake:

Not only that, but such laws have actually increased shelter intake and
killing as pets are either surrendered or seized for failure to pay
regressive fees:

It is also believed that such laws may reduce veterinary-care rates and
vaccination rates, including rabies vaccinations:

Thus, "anyone" and everyone who cares about animals should be against
mandatory spay/neuter laws.

In fact, nearly every single national animal-welfare organization IS
against mandatory spay/neuter laws, including Alley Cat Allies, Best
Friends Animal Society, the American Veterinary Medical Association,
American Humane, the Anti-Cruelty League, the No Kill Advocacy Center, and
both the American College of Theriogenologists and the Society of
Theriogenology (both specialist organizations of veterinarians who are
experts in spay/neuter), among many others."

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:

> Exposing the killing horrors to the public is the best way to call
> attention to it; as the saying goes, if shelters had to kill animals in
> glass houses in town squares, they would stop doing it – if it’s out of
> sight, out of mind, and easily swept under the rug., it will continue!
>  People must become aware of it, mandatory spay/neuter laws must be passed,
> and legislators must stop taking money and be continually influenced by
> lobbyists who want nothing more than to stop it – breeders, many
> veterinarians, and hunting groups (YES, would you believe?) and many more
> you would never suspect, are against any spay/neuter legislation! But it’s
> the ONLY answer! ****
> Natalie =^..^=****
> ** **
> P.S.****
> Maybe all of the rescuers in this group who have ideas, should take this
> offline….let’s put our heads together!****
> It can be done!****
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kat Parker
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 05, 2012 2:07 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Section 1983****
> ** **
> Hiya Kathryn and everyone.   The federal statute you were referring to,
> Kathryn, is Section 1983, and my step-brother, Sheldon Eisenberg, is the
> one who wrote the "Section 1983 to the rescue", on Nathan's site you found,
> and Sheldon used it in court representing Cathy Nguyen and Nathan against
> Los Angeles County Dept of Animal Care and Control, which he won a
> stipulated order from the judge in that lawsuit. (Not that it does any good
> at all, now, but ...  whatever.   lol)
> I did not intend to correct any person in particular, just wanted to
> mention the name of the law, which is really easy to forget, actually, but
> really wonderful to be able to use for all being a FEDERAL STATUTE, and
> there are a lot of rescuers in here.
> ~Kat~
>  ****
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kathryn Hargreaves <khargrea...@gmail.com>
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:21:00 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters
> What do you mean by ``rules''?   Laws?   If they are not in compliance
> with laws, then turn them in.   (Of course, if you're a rescuer pulling
> from these pounds, then you have to protect yourself using the federal law
> Section 1982: http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=728
> As for the citizens, put ads in the papers, and maybe even send out
> informative flyers (ask for the money to do so via a Chipin).
> You can also try to get social media attention via the various animal
> blogs that push shelter reform, e.g., YesBiscuit!.
> Who holds the contract with the pound?
> Don't give up.   It may take years, and we're seeing progress even in TX.
> Probably the moderator would like us to take this offline by now. . .****
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com> wrote:*
> ***
> The problem here is that I'm in Texas.  Killing is the State Sport.
> Unfortunately, most of the Animal Control Officers don't even know the new
> rules, which include acceptance of TNR as a way to control outside cats.
> They are still terrorizing people who have a small batch of backyard cats
> who are spayed/neutered and have their rabies shots. They are counting
> these cats in the 8 cat limit when the new code states specifically that
> they are NOT included in the cat limit rule.  They recently reduced the
> number of cats/dogs allowed to 8 from 10.  This makes no sense except when
> you realize that they will now charge for an "excess animal permit".  Then
> it makes sense to reduce the legal limit so that a number of people are now
> over the limit and have to purchase the permit.  Nasty little tricks.
> People who have received a citation in the past for having over the
> permissible limit of cats/dogs are prohibited from purchasing the permit.
> More nonsense.  It would help if all the ACO's were required to read the
> new codes and then be tested on whether or not they understand them.  The
> citizens of this city don't know the rules either.  Cat haters are
> terrorizing cat caring neighbors, threatening them with reporting them when
> there's nothing to report because the cat caregivers are actually in
> compliance.  I think that ignorance is our worst enemy. Even when we get
> good ordinances, they don't work because no one knows about them.****
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Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!

If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
life.  Contact your local pound for information.

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
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