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On Sep 25, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com> wrote: > The problem with euthanasia for pets is that most people will use it for > their own convenience. I have seen this happen several times and it's really > terrible but there is no crime in killing an animal. We do this every day to > eat them, for sport, as trophies or just because we don't want them any more. > They don't match the new sofa or they might scratch the new sofa. I have a > cat rescued from the vet clinic when the woman I was sitting next to who had > a lovely white male cat in a carrier told me she was having him euthanized > because he was an outside cat and it was too much trouble to call him in at > night. Another woman brought in her two older cats, lovely Maine Coon mixes, > obviously still full of life to have them "put to sleep" because she and her > husband were going on a world tour. And a third woman was getting married > and her husband to be hated cats so off went her 8 year old Persian mix. > Well, not exactly off. I adopted the white cat. I still have him. He > tested FIV+ because the woman had not bothered to neuter him as a teen. He's > in my little FIV+group, perfectly happy to be indoors. The world tour people > left their cats at the vet clinic and one of the techs adopted them and the > idiot who was marrying a cat hater never knew that her cat was adopted by one > of the secretaries at the vet clinic. But these success stories happened > because I was there and convinced the technician and the secretary that death > was unfair to the cats and they agreed. > > Veterinary medicine is still for the benefit of the "owner". Animals are > considered property rather than individuals with the right to having a > caregiver and the right to their own lives. We choose not to see the > suffering of a truly terminally ill companion animal because we don't want to > feel the pain of the loss. We choose not to see how unethical it is to kill > millions of cats and dogs because there are "too many" around or they are > positive for some disease that they do not have at the present time and may > never actually come down with or any number of other reasons we use to murder > non-human animals. > > Everyone will eventually die. It's a bad plan but we had no say in it. > However, the idea that we have to kill animals because they might die of this > or that is not ethical. The idea that a human is so precious that we keep > him or her alive way past reason is equally illogical and unethical. I don't > have any answers so I try to use logic. I don't euthanize for convenience. > I allow maximum care for my rescued cats, for my FeLv+ cats and my FIV+ cats. > I watch to see if their lives have gone beyond the limit of being useful to > them, not to me and then I accept the pain it will cause me and allow them to > pass on. I don't tell myself fairy tales about where they go. I miss them > and I accept the grief knowing that they are no longer in pain or distress. > > > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty > neighbors too! > > > From: MaiMaiPG <maima...@gmail.com> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Deciding-when-a-pet-has-suffered-enough > > With those beliefs, please check into a Do Not Resuscitate Order. LWs are > great but stopping something once it is started is difficult. A DNR can help > keep measures from being started. > On Sep 25, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Lorrie wrote: > > > Absolutely Edna..... It is positively cruel to keep people alive > > when they are suffering and there is no recovery in sight. The > > only states that allow doctor assisted suicide are Oregon, Wash. > > and Montana. It can't happen in my state of WV. Dr. Kevorkian was > > my hero. I'll be 80 my next birthday and it terrifies me to think > > of not being able to end my life when I'm ready. I've signed a > > Living Will requesting NO heroic measures, if I'm terminal, but > > sometimes they keep you alive anyway. > > > > Lorrie > > > > alive-25, Edna Taylor wrote: > >> personally, I think we should do this for people too, end their > >> suffering. What quality of life does someone have who simply lays in > >> bed in a vegetative state? Who are we keeping that person alive for? > >> to what end? If it were me, and I had some life ending disease or > >> accident, I would want my husband to use what money we had, go out and > >> get as much booze and coke as he could get and let me go out with a > >> bang ;) But then again, that is just my opinion ;) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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