SOME VETS WILL NOT TREAT AN UNVACCINATED CAT, POS OR NOT. ---- Kat Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > Why do the rabies? I would do the fvrcp before the rabies and i won't so > either one. If your cat is not outside at all, which especially with being > positive i think not, and you don't have rabid animals around, again, > probably not the case, why on earth would you give a rabies shot to a > positive cat? The law is ot going to be enforced in your home it's not a > big deal, but over vaccinating a positive cat is a big deal. They have that > antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop > antibodies. > > On Thursday, August 14, 2014, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? (Shelley Theye) > > 2. Re: New & have question ([email protected] <javascript:;>) > > 3. Re: FELV contagious ([email protected] <javascript:;>) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 -0400 > > From: Shelley Theye <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > To: [email protected] <javascript:;> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? > > Message-ID: <[email protected] > > <javascript:;>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > > > Hi Lance, > > > > I am not sure! I will ask her. She is pretty great. Didn't even > > consider euth. when he tested positive. Went ahead and neutered Leo and > > told me the news later that day. > > > > I just keep thinking about what the folks on this list said last year when > > I asked, that their cats became sick after vaccinating. > > > > Thanks for letting me know that Ember did OK without vaccines at the vet > > clinic. I don't know if they make a purevax FVRCP. > > > > We will do the Rabies, and vet said to wait at least 2 weeks between > > vaccines if do the FVRCP. I thought that was good of her > > to suggest too, because it is better not to do them all at once. I never > > realized that until a few years ago. > > > > I'll let you all know if I find out anything on this, will probably just > > do the rabies though for now. > > > > Shelley > > > > > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Lance <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > > > > I wish I had an answer for you. Would your vet be willing to log onto > > Vetinfo to see what other vets are recommending for FeLV cats? I seem to > > recall that Ember?s vet recommended that she be vaccinated, but we never > > did that. Despite her low white count, she never picked anything up at the > > vet?s office as far as I know. Even the dentals didn?t weaken her enough. > > > > > > If Purevax makes an FVRCP vaccine, that might be the better one to go > > with. It is supposed to have less possibility of causing a fibrosarcoma (we > > used to call them vax site sarcomas). > > > > > > Also, you?re not overthinking this. You?re being a good and protective > > cat parent. > > > > > > Best wishes for you and Leo, > > > > > > Lance > > > > > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Shelley Theye <[email protected] > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi All, > > >> > > >> I asked last year when Leo was due for his yearly check-up, about how > > everyone feels about vaccinating > > >> their Leukemia pos. cats in general. > > >> > > >> The replies I received cautioned not to vaccinate for FVRCP, that is > > caused cats to become ill afterwards. > > >> > > >> I have to get Leo vacc. for rabies since it is the law, will do the > > Purevax like I did last year, but he > > >> has only received one FVRCP vacc. back in summer 2012, when I first got > > him and he was neutered and > > >> I wasn't told about his FeLV status until afterwards. At the time I > > thought he was a feral cat, he actually was, > > >> but has since become quite tame. > > >> > > >> Last year, in 2013, I opted not to do the FVRCP, because of the > > cautionary emails on the subject. > > >> I guess my only worry is that he will be more susceptible in a vet > > clinic when he goes in for a check up for > > >> for treatment if he doesn't have that vaccine, so just would like to > > throw this out there again for thoughts on > > >> this subject. Also, is there a certain type of FVRCP that might be > > less dangerous, etc? > > >> > > >> I have done some reading on Dr. Lisa Pierson's website, and sounds like > > he should maybe have at least 2 vaccines > > >> as an adult and then can stop. Am I overthinking this? > > >> > > >> Thanks for any advice. So far, knock on wood, he is doing great, > > though he is lonely, but I think since he was initially > > >> semi-feral, the quiet lifestyle suits him. we built him a nice mini > > screened porch/large window box which he really enjoys > > >> and spend time with him daily. > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> Shelley > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >> [email protected] <javascript:;> > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:52:09 -0500 > > From: <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > To: [email protected] <javascript:;> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question > > Message-ID: <20140813175209.WYRYT.48742.root@pamxwww05-z01> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > i HAVE STARTED OIL PULLING FOR MYSELF WITH COCONUT OIL. IT IS A GOOD > > ANTIBACTERIAL, ETC. AND MIGHT HELP YOUR CAT. I USE A TABLESPOON EACH DAY, > > IT TASTES GOOD AND MY HARLEY ALWAYS WANTS TO LICK MY FINGERS AFTERWARDS. > > (I JUST SCOOP A FINGER FULL (ABOUT 1 TABLESPOON) AND PUT IT IN MY MOUTH.) > > ---- Lance <[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > I don?t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward oral > > health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes pet > > dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should bring > > up their site. I believe they?re owned by Virbac. > > > > > > After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and DMG > > (both are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often > > gave her Prescription Diet t/d as a ?treat?. We rarely had any gum or teeth > > issues, though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be good > > for a kitty already dealing with any mouth pain. > > > > > > Best wishes for you and the calico kitten, > > > > > > Lance > > > > > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes <[email protected] > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original > > test and this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+. I have 7 other cats and have > > done rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs. We are waiting on IFA results now. > > I was reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote > > oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post. Can > > someone help me with that info? Am waiting on labs now to decide on course > > of treatment. Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats. > > > > Thanks, Susan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:53:35 -0500 > > From: <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > To: [email protected] <javascript:;> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious > > Message-ID: <20140813175335.NI5VP.48748.root@pamxwww05-z01> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > THAT IS THE ONLY VACCINE I GET NOW AND I MAY STOP IT SINCE MY PRIDE DOES > > NOT GET INTO BITING FIGHTS, JUST SNARLING AND HISSING AND SWATTING. > > ---- "Katherine K." <[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > Hi Maya, > > > > > > I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one > > was > > > positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against > > FeLV. > > > But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you > > do > > > decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is > > > vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps. > > > > > > However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You > > could > > > alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact > > > you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or > > if > > > they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites. > > We > > > have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping or > > > rehoming their pets. > > > > > > I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive cat. > > > But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row, > > and > > > certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done > > > it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for > > > Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! <3 > > > > > > Katherine > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio <[email protected] > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely. He is used to being second in > > > > command to our cat Yang who passed away. > > > > > > > > I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until > > > > they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are > > really > > > > sick). She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing > > another > > > > cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune > > compromised, > > > > etc. This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact. > > > > > > > > I'm not sure who to believe here. Obviously FELV is contagious, and > > it is > > > > passed from cat to cat. The chance of that increases with increased > > > > contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been > > running > > > > the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died > > from > > > > it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test > > > > negative for FELV recently. I can't imagine being responsible for > > exposing > > > > another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for > > > > Merlot who is lonely. I was thining maybe I would consider (in six > > months > > > > or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home. > > > > ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put > > down. > > > > > > > > What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Maya D'Alessio > > > > PhD student > > > > B1 377B, x32320 > > > > Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator > > > > Biology GSA Vice Chair > > > > GSA Director At-Large > > > > University of Waterloo > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 > > ************************************** > > > > > -- > > > > > > *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **"I'm Kat > Parker. I park cats."* > * "Spay & neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem."* > *"Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE & HAPPY > cat!"* > > *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector > <http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector>*
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