Really? I've never run into that, but maybe I just stayed away from them for other reasons. Sounds like they ae in it for the money. Because most of mine came from rescue situations, there vaccination status was unknown. I can't remember it ever being an issue when the cat needed help.
Margo -----Original Message----- >From: dlg...@windstream.net >Sent: Aug 14, 2014 7:44 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Cc: Kat Parker <korruptaki...@gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 > >SOME VETS WILL NOT TREAT AN UNVACCINATED CAT, POS OR NOT. > >---- Kat Parker <korruptaki...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Why do the rabies? I would do the fvrcp before the rabies and i won't so >> either one. If your cat is not outside at all, which especially with being >> positive i think not, and you don't have rabid animals around, again, >> probably not the case, why on earth would you give a rabies shot to a >> positive cat? The law is ot going to be enforced in your home it's not a >> big deal, but over vaccinating a positive cat is a big deal. They have that >> antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop >> antibodies. >> >> On Thursday, August 14, 2014, <felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org> wrote: >> >> > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Re: fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? (Shelley Theye) >> > 2. Re: New & have question (dlg...@windstream.net <javascript:;>) >> > 3. Re: FELV contagious (dlg...@windstream.net <javascript:;>) >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 -0400 >> > From: Shelley Theye <ve...@bellsouth.net <javascript:;>> >> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> >> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? >> > Message-ID: <79d7a665-5346-488d-90a8-62c6c5664...@bellsouth.net >> > <javascript:;>> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >> > >> > Hi Lance, >> > >> > I am not sure! I will ask her. She is pretty great. Didn't even >> > consider euth. when he tested positive. Went ahead and neutered Leo and >> > told me the news later that day. >> > >> > I just keep thinking about what the folks on this list said last year when >> > I asked, that their cats became sick after vaccinating. >> > >> > Thanks for letting me know that Ember did OK without vaccines at the vet >> > clinic. I don't know if they make a purevax FVRCP. >> > >> > We will do the Rabies, and vet said to wait at least 2 weeks between >> > vaccines if do the FVRCP. I thought that was good of her >> > to suggest too, because it is better not to do them all at once. I never >> > realized that until a few years ago. >> > >> > I'll let you all know if I find out anything on this, will probably just >> > do the rabies though for now. >> > >> > Shelley >> > >> > >> > On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Lance <lini...@fastmail.fm <javascript:;>> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > I wish I had an answer for you. Would your vet be willing to log onto >> > Vetinfo to see what other vets are recommending for FeLV cats? I seem to >> > recall that Ember?s vet recommended that she be vaccinated, but we never >> > did that. Despite her low white count, she never picked anything up at the >> > vet?s office as far as I know. Even the dentals didn?t weaken her enough. >> > > >> > > If Purevax makes an FVRCP vaccine, that might be the better one to go >> > with. It is supposed to have less possibility of causing a fibrosarcoma (we >> > used to call them vax site sarcomas). >> > > >> > > Also, you?re not overthinking this. You?re being a good and protective >> > cat parent. >> > > >> > > Best wishes for you and Leo, >> > > >> > > Lance >> > > >> > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Shelley Theye <ve...@bellsouth.net >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > > >> > >> Hi All, >> > >> >> > >> I asked last year when Leo was due for his yearly check-up, about how >> > everyone feels about vaccinating >> > >> their Leukemia pos. cats in general. >> > >> >> > >> The replies I received cautioned not to vaccinate for FVRCP, that is >> > caused cats to become ill afterwards. >> > >> >> > >> I have to get Leo vacc. for rabies since it is the law, will do the >> > Purevax like I did last year, but he >> > >> has only received one FVRCP vacc. back in summer 2012, when I first got >> > him and he was neutered and >> > >> I wasn't told about his FeLV status until afterwards. At the time I >> > thought he was a feral cat, he actually was, >> > >> but has since become quite tame. >> > >> >> > >> Last year, in 2013, I opted not to do the FVRCP, because of the >> > cautionary emails on the subject. >> > >> I guess my only worry is that he will be more susceptible in a vet >> > clinic when he goes in for a check up for >> > >> for treatment if he doesn't have that vaccine, so just would like to >> > throw this out there again for thoughts on >> > >> this subject. Also, is there a certain type of FVRCP that might be >> > less dangerous, etc? >> > >> >> > >> I have done some reading on Dr. Lisa Pierson's website, and sounds like >> > he should maybe have at least 2 vaccines >> > >> as an adult and then can stop. Am I overthinking this? >> > >> >> > >> Thanks for any advice. So far, knock on wood, he is doing great, >> > though he is lonely, but I think since he was initially >> > >> semi-feral, the quiet lifestyle suits him. we built him a nice mini >> > screened porch/large window box which he really enjoys >> > >> and spend time with him daily. >> > >> >> > >> Best, >> > >> Shelley >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Felvtalk mailing list >> > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Felvtalk mailing list >> > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> >> > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:52:09 -0500 >> > From: <dlg...@windstream.net <javascript:;>> >> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> >> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question >> > Message-ID: <20140813175209.WYRYT.48742.root@pamxwww05-z01> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> > >> > i HAVE STARTED OIL PULLING FOR MYSELF WITH COCONUT OIL. IT IS A GOOD >> > ANTIBACTERIAL, ETC. AND MIGHT HELP YOUR CAT. I USE A TABLESPOON EACH DAY, >> > IT TASTES GOOD AND MY HARLEY ALWAYS WANTS TO LICK MY FINGERS AFTERWARDS. >> > (I JUST SCOOP A FINGER FULL (ABOUT 1 TABLESPOON) AND PUT IT IN MY MOUTH.) >> > ---- Lance <lini...@fastmail.fm <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > > I don?t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward oral >> > health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes pet >> > dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should bring >> > up their site. I believe they?re owned by Virbac. >> > > >> > > After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and DMG >> > (both are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often >> > gave her Prescription Diet t/d as a ?treat?. We rarely had any gum or teeth >> > issues, though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be good >> > for a kitty already dealing with any mouth pain. >> > > >> > > Best wishes for you and the calico kitten, >> > > >> > > Lance >> > > >> > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes <sweet2bcota...@att.net >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi everyone, >> > > > I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original >> > test and this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+. I have 7 other cats and have >> > done rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs. We are waiting on IFA results now. >> > I was reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote >> > oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post. Can >> > someone help me with that info? Am waiting on labs now to decide on course >> > of treatment. Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats. >> > > > Thanks, Susan >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Felvtalk mailing list >> > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> >> > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 3 >> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:53:35 -0500 >> > From: <dlg...@windstream.net <javascript:;>> >> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> >> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious >> > Message-ID: <20140813175335.NI5VP.48748.root@pamxwww05-z01> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> > >> > THAT IS THE ONLY VACCINE I GET NOW AND I MAY STOP IT SINCE MY PRIDE DOES >> > NOT GET INTO BITING FIGHTS, JUST SNARLING AND HISSING AND SWATTING. >> > ---- "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > > Hi Maya, >> > > >> > > I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one >> > was >> > > positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against >> > FeLV. >> > > But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you >> > do >> > > decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is >> > > vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps. >> > > >> > > However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You >> > could >> > > alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact >> > > you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or >> > if >> > > they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites. >> > We >> > > have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping or >> > > rehoming their pets. >> > > >> > > I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive cat. >> > > But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row, >> > and >> > > certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done >> > > it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for >> > > Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! <3 >> > > >> > > Katherine >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > > >> > > > So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely. He is used to being second in >> > > > command to our cat Yang who passed away. >> > > > >> > > > I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until >> > > > they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are >> > really >> > > > sick). She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing >> > another >> > > > cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune >> > compromised, >> > > > etc. This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact. >> > > > >> > > > I'm not sure who to believe here. Obviously FELV is contagious, and >> > it is >> > > > passed from cat to cat. The chance of that increases with increased >> > > > contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been >> > running >> > > > the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died >> > from >> > > > it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test >> > > > negative for FELV recently. I can't imagine being responsible for >> > exposing >> > > > another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for >> > > > Merlot who is lonely. I was thining maybe I would consider (in six >> > months >> > > > or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home. >> > > > ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put >> > down. >> > > > >> > > > What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this? >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Maya D'Alessio >> > > > PhD student >> > > > B1 377B, x32320 >> > > > Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator >> > > > Biology GSA Vice Chair >> > > > GSA Director At-Large >> > > > University of Waterloo >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Felvtalk mailing list >> > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> >> > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Subject: Digest Footer >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Felvtalk mailing list >> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <javascript:;> >> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 >> > ************************************** >> > >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **"I'm Kat >> Parker. I park cats."* >> * "Spay & neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem."* >> *"Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE & HAPPY >> cat!"* >> >> *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector >> <http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector>* > > >_______________________________________________ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
