OK...Stage...Phase...what ever....
The origional question was about strain....
To me that would be like the Hong Cong Flue...Which we have been getting a new strain of every year for 50 years  +- ...
I have heard that there are a number of strains of FeLV...and I would think that was the organism that initialy enters the cat.... And the question was wheather there was a way of identifing the strain....
 
It is also said that some strains are more likely to turn into B or C....
Can you share on this thread ???
Tad

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I think I have heard of the A, B and C as stages rather than strain...
    


Subgroups are not the same as stages.  There are 6 stages of FeLV infection.

Early Infection (Phases I to 3)



Hemolymphatic and Intestinal
Infection (Phase 4)

Phase 4 is the pivotal phase.  If the total virus burden exceeds the cat's
anti-FeLV immune responses, the cat will develop persistent viremia. If the
cat's immune response is successful in limiting or eliminating FeLV, the cat
will develop either latent, extinguished, or sequestered FeLV infection.


Marrow-Origin Viremia (Phase 5)



Widespread Replication of FeLV (Phase 6)



Ong





  
I have also heard that their are 8 differant strains of the virous...I
would think that would be a part of stage A.....Pretty sure it is
posible to identify what stage the cat is in...but I don't know if there
is anyway to identify what strain an A+ cat has....
    

 FeLV-A is a *subgroup*.  All FeLV positive cats are infected with FELV-A.

Subgroups are determined by viral interference assays.



  
Tad  (I don't know what I am talking about but just my guess)

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Thank you for clarification..


        
No no. It was my fault for not being clearer.  I tend to ramble on since
this disease is always on my mind.


I think I understand now. I guess my question


      
is do FELV+ cats develop all strains?


        
Not necessarily.


Or do some get A and then either B or


      
C?


        
All FeLV-infected cats are infected with FeLV-A.  About 50% of the
FeLV-infected cats generate FeLV-B, and only about 1% generate FeLV-C.

A cat cannot have FeLV-B, or C without having FeLV-A.

Ong.




      
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OK-- so what you're saying is that depending on the strain of FELV, it


          
is


      
NOT contagious?


          
No, I don't think that's what I said.  I believe I said "FeLV-A occurs
        
in
  
all FeLV-infected cats and causes severe immunosuppression"  "Only
        
FeLV-A
  
        
is


      
transmitted contagiously among cats."

"FeLV-B or -C are generated de novo by recombination between endogenous


        
FeLV


      
sequences and the infecting FeLV-A.  FeLV-B and FeLV-C are not
        
transmitted
  
contagiously among cats in nature."

IOW, all FeLV infected cats are infected with FeLV-A which is
        
tramsmitted
  
contagiously among cats.  FeLV-B and C are generated within the cat by
recombination with the infecting FeLV-A and endogenous FeLV sequences.

I hope this clears up your confusion.

Ong



If so, then it really puts into question the tests


        
routinely used?  What tests could be used to determine the strain?

Chris
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I appreciate the thoughtfulness of what you've written so much.  I've
mixed FELV with negatives, no prob.  But always a question - shudder.

Have wondered for some time about strains.  Does anybody know if
there's an available test for the strain of FELV?

Gloria


            
Hi Gloria,

I'm new to the group; I hope you don't mind if I butt in.

The differences in the outcome of FeLV infection can be attributed to
differences in virus subgroups that may be considered strains.  FeLV-A,
FeLV-B, and FeLV-C.
Only FeLV-A is transmitted contagiously among cats.  FeLV-B or -C are
generated de novo by recombination between endogenous FeLV sequences
          
and
  
          
the


        
infecting FeLV-A.  FeLV-B and FeLV-C are not transmitted contagiously


          
among


        
cats in nature.  The subgroups are determined by viral interference


          
assays.


        
These are highly specialized tests and usually available only in


          
research


      
and specialized diagnostic labs.

FeLV-A occurs in all FeLV-infected cats and causes severe


          
immunosuppression


        
(weakened immune system).

FeLV-B occurs in about 50% of all FeLV-infected cats and causes more
neoplastic disease (i.e., tumors and other abnormal tissue growths)
          
than
  
cats infected only with FeLV-A.

FeLV-C occurs in about 1% of FeLV-infected cats and causes severe


          
anemia.


      
hth,

Ong








          


        




      


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