On 29 Sep 2005 at 21:21, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

> On 20:29 Uhr David W. Fenton wrote:
> > I think you certainly recognize that if the spectrograph analyzer is
> > looking at the playback of the file rather than the file itself that
> > the result will include distortion introduced by my soundcard.
> 
> I am still absolutely convinced that your sound card cannot have any
> effect on the spectrum analysis, whether the file is played back or
> not. . . .

Well, this is my last statement on this subject, but in an 
application that does spectrographic analysis and requires that you 
choose an input sound device (as more than one of the programs I 
tested did require) it is pretty clear that the analysis app is 
capturing the audio output, just like Audacity and other audio 
capture programs. These apps lacked a FILE OPEN capability that would 
have allowed me to choose a file for analysis without capturing the 
soundcard output.

> . . . This would require the software to first convert from digital
> to analogue, then loop it through the soundcard, and then reconvert
> analogue to digital. That makes absolutely no sense at all.Your
> soundcard almost certainly is completely out of the whole picture
> (except for the playback itself, you wouldn't hear anything without a
> soundcard).

Well, Johannes, you're just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

These applications had no capability of opening a file. All they 
could do was listen to a stream of audio from the soundcard.

Now, more than one of the apps *did* have the ability to open WAV 
files, but I wanted to analyze MP3 files, so those were of no use to 
me. Those, presumably, would not have involved my soundcard.

But in the case of the ones I've been talking about, the soundcard 
*was* involved, whether you are able to conceive of that being the 
case or not.

YOU ARE JUST WRONG HERE.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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