On 30-Apr-07, at 3:40 PM, John Howell wrote:


Andrew's point is a good one. "Jazz" itself lacks a rigorous definition aside from, "I know it when I hear it"!

Is it a STYLE, or is it a PRACTICE. Does a vocalist have to do scat to qualify as a jazz vocalist? Is a big band chart in perfect jazz style but with no provision for improv solos a "real" jazz chart? I'm asking, not arguing. But just to be clear, to me it is a style.



Some jazz musicians (not me!) would argue that any singer who doesn't participate in the "jazz process" is not a jazz singer. This usually means they need to scat, or at least to improvise interesting phrasing. Since so many singers sing "Route 66" pretty much the same way Natalie Cole sings it and proclaim themselves to be jazz singers, I understand the resistance. About the only singer I hear who participates in the jazz process at the same level as most instrumentalists do is Curt (or is it Kurt?) Elling, so that leaves out almost everybody else.


Yes, in her mind (which means in the minds of the professors at Miami where she got her Jazz degree), ALL of American popular music was and is a subset of jazz!!


Well, you have to admit, the vocabulary IS very similar, as is the technique and repertoire as well as the general approach. Also, early on in the history of jazz, there wasn't much of a distinction made between jazz and popular music, in fact, jazz WAS popular!

I try to keep the meaning of jazz to be as large as possible. That's not to say that I enjoy all jazz-derived music, but that is more a matter of taste than of philosophy or formation.


So much for an art form that's supposed to leave the performer free of artificial restrictions!!!

Huh? Who told you that? Jazz is very restricted, though I wouldn't say the restrictions are artificial. It is also very free, though you can't do just anything. In jazz as in all art, and in politics and life in general, more freedom means more responsibility, which means restrictions.

That being said, I don't care for the "jazz police" mentality. I routinely laugh back at anyone who says "that's not jazz!" Who really cares, except for the record stores who have to keep things in bins by style, and the Grammys?

Christopher



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