Well, you would need a text indication as well! X heads are common for all kinds of unpitched sounds on many instruments, but you need to say what you mean.

Christopher

On Sat Mar 13, at SaturdayMar 13 12:17 AM, Rich Caldwell wrote:

In this score X noteheads and diamonds are used for other things in both the brass and woodwinds, so that might be confusing.

I don't have the Stone (gasp), so I don't know what he shows.

On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
I've seen X heads for solid rhythmic values and diamonds for half and whole notes, with cresc. and dim. wedges. No need for a special clef, and it usually happens on the middle line of whatever clef we already happen to be in (trombones!)

Christopher


On 12-Mar-10, at 12-Mar-10  5:56 PM, Rich Caldwell wrote:

The large orchestral piece I'm working on now calls for this effect through most of it, in all of the brass and woodwinds (w/o mouthpieces or reeds depending on instrument), mostly p or mp. He notated this in his manuscript with a clef (since it's large sections, not just a note here and there). I've never come across this before, so I simply followed his notation and created a custom clef as a vertical rectangle, sort of like a percussion rectangular clef, but larger. The notes just lie on the middle line, as there are no pitches specified.

Since this has coincidentally come up today, I figure I should ask, is this is a notation others have seen?

On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Aaron Rabushka wrote:
IIRC Ligeti calls on his brass players in Atmosphères to blow air through the instruments without any definite pitch or characteristic brass instrument sound. Does anyone here know of others who have done this, and what the limits are? (You'd think having been a brass player I'd know this, but nothing comes to mind at the moment.)

Aaron J. Rabushka
arabus...@austin.rr.com



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