Hi Robert,

Assuming the selection has to be done with the selection tool, I'm not sure how 
I would select one group at a time... all the staves where I would want to use 
this plugin are members of multiple groups (e.g., the "Strings" group plus the 
"Violin I" group).

(These aren't Score Manager groups.)

Cheers,

- DJA
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On 3 Oct 2012, at 10:26 PM, Robert Patterson <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> You have to choose one group at a time and select exactly the bars and
> staves you want a separate group in. At least that's how I got it to work.
> The group has to be not a Score Manager group. (But I got a different error
> when i was trying to split a Score Manager group.)
> 
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> 
>> JW Split Group looked promising in theory, but in practice, I get a "No
>> groups were found" error.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> - DJA
>> -----
>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 9:56 PM, Robert Patterson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On further research, it appears JW Split Group will do exactly what you
>>> want, except it won't mess with a group that is owned by an multistaff
>>> instrument. (This is actually a wise precaution for a plugin to have.)
>>> Since you are trying to mess with the instrument names, you may have to
>> put
>>> your groups in external to the Score Manager.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Robert Patterson <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There is JW Split Groups, but I haven't done much with it yet, so I am
>> not
>>>> sure if it will help.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> While the solution Robert linked to is an improvement over how I'd been
>>>>> doing things, it still requires me to:
>>>>> 
>>>>>       (A) delete and re-create instrument brackets wherever I want to
>>>>> reposition a group name (on one system)
>>>>>       (B) delete and re-create the group name wherever I want to
>>>>> reposition it (on one system)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't suppose there is any way around this? In earlier versions of
>>>>> Finale, group names were unlinked and moving them on one system only
>> was a
>>>>> simple matter of clicking and dragging.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> - DJA
>>>>> -----
>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 8:05 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many thanks! I found that entry, but the language talks only about
>>>>> brackets, not group names. I didn't realize it would work for both!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - DJA
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 7:54 PM, Robert Patterson <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My Google search terms were:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Finale 2012 modify staff groups on one system
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> which put me 2 clicks away from:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> awww.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2012Win/Content/Finale/Brackets_Staves6.htm
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wasn't able to find instructions for doing this on a
>>>>> system-by-system
>>>>>>>> basis in the documentation. Do you remember what you searched for?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - DJA
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 7:07 PM, Robert Patterson <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There's a way to do it (in page view), but it is a bit confusing,
>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>> always have to look it up in the doc pages.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]
>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping someone has figured out an efficient way of dealing
>> with
>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>> names in recent versions of Finale (2011 and 2012).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> For instance, if I want to customize the positioning of a group
>>>>> name on
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> single system, in the middle of the score -- let's say from
>>>>> mm.250-255
>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>>>> 500-measure score -- the only way I can see to do that is:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 1) Edit the group attributes and switch from "All Measures" to
>>>>> Measures
>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>>> to 249.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2) Add a new group, from measures 250-255, re-enter the
>> abbreviated
>>>>>>>> staff
>>>>>>>>>> name, click the "Position" checkbox, and enter the desired custom
>>>>>>>>>> positioning.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 3) Add a *third* group, from measures 256 to 500, that has the
>> same
>>>>>>>>>> abbreviated staff name and positioning as the first group.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This procedure gets *really* tiresome very quickly, especially if
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>> a lot of custom group name positioning.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Isn't there some way to move a group name on a single system only,
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>> affecting the rest of the score? This used to be quite simple in
>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>>>> versions of Finale, before they got rid of the "Optimize" feature.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> - DJA
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>>>>>>>>>> 
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