Hi Robert, I tried selecting the strings (exactly top and bottom staves) -- no go. I also tried selecting just the (visible) individual string staves, only one staff at a time -- same problem.
Cheers, - DJA ----- WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 3 Oct 2012, at 10:32 PM, Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > I haven't really used it, but in my experiment just now, it wanted me to > select exactly the top and bottom staves. Surely you only have one group > that matches a specific top and bottom staff. > > In the bigger question, I 100% agree with you that the new way is not as > good as the old for this particular task. > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@mac.com> wrote: > >> Hi Robert, >> >> Assuming the selection has to be done with the selection tool, I'm not >> sure how I would select one group at a time... all the staves where I would >> want to use this plugin are members of multiple groups (e.g., the "Strings" >> group plus the "Violin I" group). >> >> (These aren't Score Manager groups.) >> >> Cheers, >> >> - DJA >> ----- >> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >> >> >> >> On 3 Oct 2012, at 10:26 PM, Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com> >> wrote: >> >>> You have to choose one group at a time and select exactly the bars and >>> staves you want a separate group in. At least that's how I got it to >> work. >>> The group has to be not a Score Manager group. (But I got a different >> error >>> when i was trying to split a Score Manager group.) >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@mac.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Robert, >>>> >>>> JW Split Group looked promising in theory, but in practice, I get a "No >>>> groups were found" error. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> - DJA >>>> ----- >>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 9:56 PM, Robert Patterson < >> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On further research, it appears JW Split Group will do exactly what you >>>>> want, except it won't mess with a group that is owned by an multistaff >>>>> instrument. (This is actually a wise precaution for a plugin to have.) >>>>> Since you are trying to mess with the instrument names, you may have to >>>> put >>>>> your groups in external to the Score Manager. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Robert Patterson < >>>>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There is JW Split Groups, but I haven't done much with it yet, so I am >>>> not >>>>>> sure if it will help. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@mac.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While the solution Robert linked to is an improvement over how I'd >> been >>>>>>> doing things, it still requires me to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (A) delete and re-create instrument brackets wherever I want to >>>>>>> reposition a group name (on one system) >>>>>>> (B) delete and re-create the group name wherever I want to >>>>>>> reposition it (on one system) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't suppose there is any way around this? In earlier versions of >>>>>>> Finale, group names were unlinked and moving them on one system only >>>> was a >>>>>>> simple matter of clicking and dragging. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - DJA >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 8:05 PM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@mac.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Robert, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many thanks! I found that entry, but the language talks only about >>>>>>> brackets, not group names. I didn't realize it would work for both! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - DJA >>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 7:54 PM, Robert Patterson < >>>>>>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My Google search terms were: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Finale 2012 modify staff groups on one system >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> which put me 2 clicks away from: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> awww.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2012Win/Content/Finale/Brackets_Staves6.htm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@mac.com >>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Robert, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wasn't able to find instructions for doing this on a >>>>>>> system-by-system >>>>>>>>>> basis in the documentation. Do you remember what you searched for? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - DJA >>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 7:07 PM, Robert Patterson < >>>>>>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There's a way to do it (in page view), but it is a bit confusing, >>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>>>>> always have to look it up in the doc pages. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Darcy James Argue < >> djar...@mac.com >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping someone has figured out an efficient way of dealing >>>> with >>>>>>>>>> group >>>>>>>>>>>> names in recent versions of Finale (2011 and 2012). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, if I want to customize the positioning of a group >>>>>>> name on >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> single system, in the middle of the score -- let's say from >>>>>>> mm.250-255 >>>>>>>>>> of a >>>>>>>>>>>> 500-measure score -- the only way I can see to do that is: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Edit the group attributes and switch from "All Measures" to >>>>>>> Measures >>>>>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> to 249. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Add a new group, from measures 250-255, re-enter the >>>> abbreviated >>>>>>>>>> staff >>>>>>>>>>>> name, click the "Position" checkbox, and enter the desired >> custom >>>>>>>>>>>> positioning. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Add a *third* group, from measures 256 to 500, that has the >>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>> abbreviated staff name and positioning as the first group. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This procedure gets *really* tiresome very quickly, especially >> if >>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of custom group name positioning. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't there some way to move a group name on a single system >> only, >>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>>> affecting the rest of the score? This used to be quite simple in >>>>>>> earlier >>>>>>>>>>>> versions of Finale, before they got rid of the "Optimize" >> feature. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - DJA >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>>>>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>>>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
