Hi Robert,

JW Split Group looked promising in theory, but in practice, I get a "No groups 
were found" error.

Cheers,

- DJA
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On 3 Oct 2012, at 9:56 PM, Robert Patterson <[email protected]> wrote:

> On further research, it appears JW Split Group will do exactly what you
> want, except it won't mess with a group that is owned by an multistaff
> instrument. (This is actually a wise precaution for a plugin to have.)
> Since you are trying to mess with the instrument names, you may have to put
> your groups in external to the Score Manager.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Robert Patterson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> There is JW Split Groups, but I haven't done much with it yet, so I am not
>> sure if it will help.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> While the solution Robert linked to is an improvement over how I'd been
>>> doing things, it still requires me to:
>>> 
>>>        (A) delete and re-create instrument brackets wherever I want to
>>> reposition a group name (on one system)
>>>        (B) delete and re-create the group name wherever I want to
>>> reposition it (on one system)
>>> 
>>> I don't suppose there is any way around this? In earlier versions of
>>> Finale, group names were unlinked and moving them on one system only was a
>>> simple matter of clicking and dragging.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> - DJA
>>> -----
>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 8:05 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks! I found that entry, but the language talks only about
>>> brackets, not group names. I didn't realize it would work for both!
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> - DJA
>>>> -----
>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 7:54 PM, Robert Patterson <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> My Google search terms were:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finale 2012 modify staff groups on one system
>>>>> 
>>>>> which put me 2 clicks away from:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> awww.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2012Win/Content/Finale/Brackets_Staves6.htm
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wasn't able to find instructions for doing this on a
>>> system-by-system
>>>>>> basis in the documentation. Do you remember what you searched for?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - DJA
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 7:07 PM, Robert Patterson <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There's a way to do it (in page view), but it is a bit confusing,
>>> and I
>>>>>>> always have to look it up in the doc pages.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm hoping someone has figured out an efficient way of dealing with
>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>> names in recent versions of Finale (2011 and 2012).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For instance, if I want to customize the positioning of a group
>>> name on
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> single system, in the middle of the score -- let's say from
>>> mm.250-255
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>> 500-measure score -- the only way I can see to do that is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1) Edit the group attributes and switch from "All Measures" to
>>> Measures
>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>> to 249.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2) Add a new group, from measures 250-255, re-enter the abbreviated
>>>>>> staff
>>>>>>>> name, click the "Position" checkbox, and enter the desired custom
>>>>>>>> positioning.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 3) Add a *third* group, from measures 256 to 500, that has the same
>>>>>>>> abbreviated staff name and positioning as the first group.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This procedure gets *really* tiresome very quickly, especially if
>>> you
>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> a lot of custom group name positioning.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Isn't there some way to move a group name on a single system only,
>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> affecting the rest of the score? This used to be quite simple in
>>> earlier
>>>>>>>> versions of Finale, before they got rid of the "Optimize" feature.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - DJA
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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