I'm stumped. Maybe Jari will have better info. On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Robert, > > I tried selecting the strings (exactly top and bottom staves) -- no go. I > also tried selecting just the (visible) individual string staves, only one > staff at a time -- same problem. > > Cheers, > > - DJA > ----- > WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > > > > On 3 Oct 2012, at 10:32 PM, Robert Patterson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I haven't really used it, but in my experiment just now, it wanted me to > > select exactly the top and bottom staves. Surely you only have one group > > that matches a specific top and bottom staff. > > > > In the bigger question, I 100% agree with you that the new way is not as > > good as the old for this particular task. > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Hi Robert, > >> > >> Assuming the selection has to be done with the selection tool, I'm not > >> sure how I would select one group at a time... all the staves where I > would > >> want to use this plugin are members of multiple groups (e.g., the > "Strings" > >> group plus the "Violin I" group). > >> > >> (These aren't Score Manager groups.) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> - DJA > >> ----- > >> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >> > >> > >> > >> On 3 Oct 2012, at 10:26 PM, Robert Patterson < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> You have to choose one group at a time and select exactly the bars and > >>> staves you want a separate group in. At least that's how I got it to > >> work. > >>> The group has to be not a Score Manager group. (But I got a different > >> error > >>> when i was trying to split a Score Manager group.) > >>> > >>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Robert, > >>>> > >>>> JW Split Group looked promising in theory, but in practice, I get a > "No > >>>> groups were found" error. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> > >>>> - DJA > >>>> ----- > >>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 9:56 PM, Robert Patterson < > >> [email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On further research, it appears JW Split Group will do exactly what > you > >>>>> want, except it won't mess with a group that is owned by an > multistaff > >>>>> instrument. (This is actually a wise precaution for a plugin to > have.) > >>>>> Since you are trying to mess with the instrument names, you may have > to > >>>> put > >>>>> your groups in external to the Score Manager. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Robert Patterson < > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> There is JW Split Groups, but I haven't done much with it yet, so I > am > >>>> not > >>>>>> sure if it will help. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> While the solution Robert linked to is an improvement over how I'd > >> been > >>>>>>> doing things, it still requires me to: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (A) delete and re-create instrument brackets wherever I want > to > >>>>>>> reposition a group name (on one system) > >>>>>>> (B) delete and re-create the group name wherever I want to > >>>>>>> reposition it (on one system) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don't suppose there is any way around this? In earlier versions > of > >>>>>>> Finale, group names were unlinked and moving them on one system > only > >>>> was a > >>>>>>> simple matter of clicking and dragging. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - DJA > >>>>>>> ----- > >>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 8:05 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi Robert, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Many thanks! I found that entry, but the language talks only about > >>>>>>> brackets, not group names. I didn't realize it would work for both! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - DJA > >>>>>>>> ----- > >>>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 7:54 PM, Robert Patterson < > >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> My Google search terms were: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Finale 2012 modify staff groups on one system > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> which put me 2 clicks away from: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> > awww.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2012Win/Content/Finale/Brackets_Staves6.htm > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Darcy James Argue < > [email protected] > >>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Robert, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I wasn't able to find instructions for doing this on a > >>>>>>> system-by-system > >>>>>>>>>> basis in the documentation. Do you remember what you searched > for? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> - DJA > >>>>>>>>>> ----- > >>>>>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 7:07 PM, Robert Patterson < > >>>>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> There's a way to do it (in page view), but it is a bit > confusing, > >>>>>>> and I > >>>>>>>>>>> always have to look it up in the doc pages. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Darcy James Argue < > >> [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping someone has figured out an efficient way of dealing > >>>> with > >>>>>>>>>> group > >>>>>>>>>>>> names in recent versions of Finale (2011 and 2012). > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, if I want to customize the positioning of a > group > >>>>>>> name on > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>> single system, in the middle of the score -- let's say from > >>>>>>> mm.250-255 > >>>>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>>>>>> 500-measure score -- the only way I can see to do that is: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Edit the group attributes and switch from "All Measures" to > >>>>>>> Measures > >>>>>>>>>> 1 > >>>>>>>>>>>> to 249. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Add a new group, from measures 250-255, re-enter the > >>>> abbreviated > >>>>>>>>>> staff > >>>>>>>>>>>> name, click the "Position" checkbox, and enter the desired > >> custom > >>>>>>>>>>>> positioning. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Add a *third* group, from measures 256 to 500, that has the > >>>> same > >>>>>>>>>>>> abbreviated staff name and positioning as the first group. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> This procedure gets *really* tiresome very quickly, especially > >> if > >>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>> need > >>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of custom group name positioning. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't there some way to move a group name on a single system > >> only, > >>>>>>>>>> without > >>>>>>>>>>>> affecting the rest of the score? This used to be quite simple > in > >>>>>>> earlier > >>>>>>>>>>>> versions of Finale, before they got rid of the "Optimize" > >> feature. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> - DJA > >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- > >>>>>>>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>> Finale mailing list > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>> Finale mailing list > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> Finale mailing list > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> Finale mailing list > >>>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> Finale mailing list > >>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Finale mailing list > >>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Finale mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Finale mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Finale mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Finale mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Finale mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
