I haven't really used it, but in my experiment just now, it wanted me to select exactly the top and bottom staves. Surely you only have one group that matches a specific top and bottom staff.
In the bigger question, I 100% agree with you that the new way is not as good as the old for this particular task. On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@mac.com> wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Assuming the selection has to be done with the selection tool, I'm not > sure how I would select one group at a time... all the staves where I would > want to use this plugin are members of multiple groups (e.g., the "Strings" > group plus the "Violin I" group). > > (These aren't Score Manager groups.) > > Cheers, > > - DJA > ----- > WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > > > > On 3 Oct 2012, at 10:26 PM, Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com> > wrote: > > > You have to choose one group at a time and select exactly the bars and > > staves you want a separate group in. At least that's how I got it to > work. > > The group has to be not a Score Manager group. (But I got a different > error > > when i was trying to split a Score Manager group.) > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@mac.com> > wrote: > > > >> Hi Robert, > >> > >> JW Split Group looked promising in theory, but in practice, I get a "No > >> groups were found" error. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> - DJA > >> ----- > >> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >> > >> > >> > >> On 3 Oct 2012, at 9:56 PM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On further research, it appears JW Split Group will do exactly what you > >>> want, except it won't mess with a group that is owned by an multistaff > >>> instrument. (This is actually a wise precaution for a plugin to have.) > >>> Since you are trying to mess with the instrument names, you may have to > >> put > >>> your groups in external to the Score Manager. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Robert Patterson < > >>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> There is JW Split Groups, but I haven't done much with it yet, so I am > >> not > >>>> sure if it will help. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@mac.com> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi all, > >>>>> > >>>>> While the solution Robert linked to is an improvement over how I'd > been > >>>>> doing things, it still requires me to: > >>>>> > >>>>> (A) delete and re-create instrument brackets wherever I want to > >>>>> reposition a group name (on one system) > >>>>> (B) delete and re-create the group name wherever I want to > >>>>> reposition it (on one system) > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't suppose there is any way around this? In earlier versions of > >>>>> Finale, group names were unlinked and moving them on one system only > >> was a > >>>>> simple matter of clicking and dragging. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> > >>>>> - DJA > >>>>> ----- > >>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 8:05 PM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@mac.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Robert, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Many thanks! I found that entry, but the language talks only about > >>>>> brackets, not group names. I didn't realize it would work for both! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - DJA > >>>>>> ----- > >>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 7:54 PM, Robert Patterson < > >>>>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> My Google search terms were: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Finale 2012 modify staff groups on one system > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> which put me 2 clicks away from: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > awww.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2012Win/Content/Finale/Brackets_Staves6.htm > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@mac.com > > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi Robert, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I wasn't able to find instructions for doing this on a > >>>>> system-by-system > >>>>>>>> basis in the documentation. Do you remember what you searched for? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - DJA > >>>>>>>> ----- > >>>>>>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 7:07 PM, Robert Patterson < > >>>>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> There's a way to do it (in page view), but it is a bit confusing, > >>>>> and I > >>>>>>>>> always have to look it up in the doc pages. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Darcy James Argue < > djar...@mac.com > >>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping someone has figured out an efficient way of dealing > >> with > >>>>>>>> group > >>>>>>>>>> names in recent versions of Finale (2011 and 2012). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> For instance, if I want to customize the positioning of a group > >>>>> name on > >>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> single system, in the middle of the score -- let's say from > >>>>> mm.250-255 > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>>>> 500-measure score -- the only way I can see to do that is: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 1) Edit the group attributes and switch from "All Measures" to > >>>>> Measures > >>>>>>>> 1 > >>>>>>>>>> to 249. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2) Add a new group, from measures 250-255, re-enter the > >> abbreviated > >>>>>>>> staff > >>>>>>>>>> name, click the "Position" checkbox, and enter the desired > custom > >>>>>>>>>> positioning. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 3) Add a *third* group, from measures 256 to 500, that has the > >> same > >>>>>>>>>> abbreviated staff name and positioning as the first group. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> This procedure gets *really* tiresome very quickly, especially > if > >>>>> you > >>>>>>>> need > >>>>>>>>>> a lot of custom group name positioning. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Isn't there some way to move a group name on a single system > only, > >>>>>>>> without > >>>>>>>>>> affecting the rest of the score? 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