At 4:10 AM -0400 10/13/12, David H. Bailey wrote:
>
>I am so glad this discussion has gone on this long -- all this
>discussion of mezzo-soprano clef (c on the 2nd line) has given me an
>epiphany.  I've never fully understood the use of the clefs for
>transposition, but now I have learned that reading an F Horn part
>(already transposed) as if it had a mezzo-soprano clef will give me the
>concert pitch without me having to do mental gymnastics.


One of the earliest tenors with New York Pro 
Musica was Arthur Squires, when the ensemble got 
started back in the early '50s.  They read a lot 
of their early music from either copies of 
original manuscripts or from scholarly editions 
that had kept the original clefs from early 
manuscripts, as did everyone at that time since 
that was all that was available.  But they also 
adjusted the pitch at which they performed the 
music, because for one thing they used women's 
voices which the Church had forbidden for 
centuries and simply were not used or written for.

Arthur had (no doubt still has!) dead perfect 
pitch, and simply could not sing at a pitch 
different from what was on the page without its 
driving him nuts!  But since he had no problem 
reading any of the 9 movable clefs he transposed 
mentally, adjusting the accidentals as needed. 
(Much like a bari sax player reading from a bass 
clef part and mentally adjusting the accidentals 
and key signature.)  And he had no trouble 
reading the clefs because in those days EVERYONE 
in early music had to be able to read them and 
learned to do so.

Knowing the original clefs is also a valuable 
clue to the range covered by each part, since 
instrumentation was very seldom indicated but was 
left up to the discretion of the band leader or 
choir director and who he had available on any 
given day.  Both scribes and typesetters chose 
the clefs that kept most of each part within the 
staff rather than using lots of ledger lines, 
awkward to hand copy with the way they cut their 
pens and calling for special pieces of type in 
early music printing.

And that's the problem.  You have to be able to 
read the clefs in the first place.  Once you can, 
then yes, they can be a great help in 
transposing.  But I don't think our music 
educators in the U.S. have ever considered it 
necessary or worthwhile to teach them.  Bach 
never wrote for transposing woodwinds at all. 
(The brass instruments came out of an entirely 
different tradition.)  He simply used the best 
choice of the 9 clefs.  In fact as late as Brahms 
it was usual to write SATB choral music using 
soprano, alto, tenor (all C clefs) and bass or 
baritone (F on the 3rd line) clefs.  That (and a 
lot of OTHER questions regarding pitch standards, 
to be sure!) makes it difficult for anyone to 
read or play from the public domain Bach 
Gesellschaft edition, because they kept all the 
original clefs.

The one transposition that still throws me is 
Clarinet in A.  It's a third transposition, and 
the clefs are all a third apart, so there should 
be an easy way to do it, but I've never 
discovered it.  (OK, I just worked through it 
once again, and soprano clef does it nicely. 
Which means I just am not very good at thinking 
in soprano clef (C on the 1st line)!!!)  But Bach 
used it every day both for his soprano choral 
parts and for a lot of the right-hand parts in 
his keyboard music.

John


-- 
John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music
Virginia Tech Department of Music
School of Performing Arts & Cinema
College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences
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