On 11/29/2014 2:04 PM, Steve Parker wrote:
>
>> Also, as Chris says, parentheses make accidentals more difficult to read.
>
> The opposite of my experience.
> When someone has brought some unknown Sondheim to an audition, there are 
> better things to do than to keep skipping back in the measure to see why the 
> Db I was about to play has an accidental on it. I register the parentheses as 
> a ‘check’.
>
>> I also think the "looking back" problem is overstated.
>
> Not from me. I find a big difference in reading one over the other.
> I don’t play either wrong, but then I’m used to sight-reading all sorts of 
> flysh*t that no-one would ever recommend as good practice.
>

That's how it works for me.  I figure it is the musician's 
responsibility to know what key they are in and play accordingly.  I 
don't need the cautionaries and I only put them (and one want to see 
them) in cases where a person (me) is likely to make a mistake.  But the 
last thing any arranger should want to do is INDUCE a mistake when a 
mistake otherwise wasn't going to happen.  Terrible practice, IMHO, to 
throw in cautionaries without parentheses.  Inexcusable.  If you are 
worried about clutter, leave the &^%^& things out altogether.

If stuff is so atonal that there are accidentals everywhere, that's 
exactly what the keyless notation is for.  Upgrade to 2014 and do the 
job properly.

I should note that I occasionally play in a concert band or other 
settings where it is necessary to share a stand -- sometimes three 
players on a stand. I may not have a good enough look at the music to 
see exactly what is beside the note.  If there is an accidental, then I 
will guess based on the context and be right > 95% of the time unless 
the engraver threw in a gratuitous accidental without parentheses.  Even 
if I don't have a good look I can usually tell if there are parentheses.

And likewise, when marking parts, if you have to write in your own 
cautionaries in order to not make a mistake, please write them ABOVE or 
BELOW the note so it is obvious it is a reminder and not a real accidental.

And for those who say "it must be OK because nobody has every complained 
about it", well, I have never complained about it either, I just cuss 
under my breath at the writer, so I don't think it is safe to judge 
based on the feedback.  It is my job to play the music as well as I can, 
even if the person doing the notation created a real mess.

And by real mess, that certainly isn't limited to cautionary accidentals 
without parentheses.  That is just a problem that is very easy to avoid. 
  The bigger problems I see are very poorly written rhythms and lack of 
structural clues.
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